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Eric's coach projects

Pete, I was going to ask when the kit was going to be available.

Eric Schade said:

Looks like it needs to be covered with tissue and have a rubber band down the middle. :slight_smile:

Pete Thornton said:

Eric,

You’re pretty close to having a laser-cut kit of a coach. Why not go the whole way and ask John at Iron Horse to produce one for the rest of us?

Wouldn’t be the same. The roof trusses are the only thing laser cut that I have seen so far.

BTW …love the wood mix Eric!

I am mostly using good old pine for this build, except for the interior of the coaches. They get the dark cedar which when varnished will more or less match the dark varnished oak of the real coach #3. On this,build I did decide to use scribed bass wood for siding…kinda a cheat where most of my freight cars have custom milled pine board siding but I think and hope it will give a more uniform coach like finish.

Beautiful work Eric. Those roof rafters take me back many years to my Private Car project. They look very similar.

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Great project. Can’t wait to see the result.

Doc Watson

Hi Eric Watching build closely; Love the work/workmanship. What thickens plywood are the rafters? Did you get the clerestory window section laser cut or are you going with your usual buildup methods. Thanks for sharing.

Talk soon

Dick w

yesterday was clerestory window day… Doc…that sure looks familiar!

I started by notching the top plate to match the roof rafters.

on the prototype coach the windows are located inside the “rafter” assembly. the actual assembly includes a bent steel frame sandwiched between sawn wooden pieces. actually the steel is only between every other window set.

the window frames are structural on the prototype and will be on the model as well.

the frame ties together all the rafters

a piece is cut for the end of the car…really this one only shows on the inside…now my roof resembles Doc’s!

I think the RR name for the rafter is carlines.

I feel like crap and am not putting out effort to look it up right now.

These framing shots are great and sawhorse is a nice touch, enhances the sense of ‘life’ the guy gives.

" Rooster " said:

Pete Thornton said:

Eric,

You’re pretty close to having a laser-cut kit of a coach. Why not go the whole way and ask John at Iron Horse to produce one for the rest of us?

Wouldn’t be the same. The roof trusses are the only thing laser cut that I have seen so far.

Just a hint. There aren’t any 7/8n2 coaches available since the Monson combine project ended. Coach sides are easier than roofs ! And there’s a 7/8n2 Forney coming from Accucraft.

You are correct Forrest. The roof trusses are called “carlines”.

Doc Watson

at least the steel frame which has the roof shape is called a carline…the wood bits? In boat building there is a piece called a carlin (no “e”) which has to do with cabins etc but I think that bit is a fore and aft beam next to a deck opening such as a cabin.

Well I looked it up (1895 carbuilders dictionary from Google books page page 25), Yes the “carline” or “carling” does include the wood bits. the bent iron bit is called a profile carline which follows the clearestory shape like my laser cut parts.

Amazing as always. Nothing beats wood for building.

Don Watson said:
You are correct Forrest. The roof trusses are called “carlines”. Doc Watson

Thanks !

I have never heard that terminology before !

Shawn Viggiano said:

Nothing beats wood for building.

You forgot “shut up Rooster”

Appreciate and love the work Eric!

Work on the coaches continues. I have been spending some time getting the ends read to roof. the ends are framed more or less like the real deal and the roof will be planked. on previous cars, I have made the roof ends from solid wood which I carved to shape.

here is a shot of the framing.

I needed to bend the roof planking around the frame. I found that if I made strips of 1/16" birch plywood cut the wrong way they would bend nicely. a few drops of CA and some kicker made short work of the job.

some fiddling was required where the main roof meets the lower roof at the ends

the side roof was made using pine strips. the first strip up against the clerestory needed to be notched. ( I found out that each is different and must be cut individually)

Nice detail work Eric. First I’ve seen the ends ribbed out as they were(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

Which coach will have the extended duck bill roof?

Outstanding!

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