Not to break the train build flow but nice hulls. Your builds also?
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I built that sloop back in the 80s…been a WHILE since she has sailed though.
Eric Schade, the Ray Dunakin of car building, your woodworking skills are amazing Eric, are you using full size machines or small ones like from Micro Mark?
Wow the wood detail is just amazing Eric. Something about building with real wood in that scale and using real plans. Awesome works so far.
I have three table saws…one 10 inch contractor’s saw, a micro mark saw and a priac micro saw. I can cut up to 3inches thick on the big one and the micro does stuff down to 1/32 square in a pinch. All three are seeing service in this project. Many bits of wood see all three saws between, raw plank and ready to install.
Oh, I also have a band saw which sees plenty of use!
I made quite a bit of this quarter round for the car corners and for door openings. it is 3/8" I started with an inch plank of pine . .
Clear you are working in 1:13.7 (7/8n2 scale.) I used a lot of 1/4" quarter round on the 1:20.3 (Fn3) coaches! And I made it from 1/2" dowel, by running it through the micromark saw to split it into 4.
Just as a heads up to those interested, both the 1/4" and 3/8" quarter round are available to your supplier. We stock both at the lumber yard I work in.
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Gee, a busy guy! They look great!
Very, very nicely done, Eric. Great detail. Looks like a real fun project… (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)
Thanks Stan—It is fun and interesting!
I am sure to need your services for this…you game? I think the lettering is gold leaf with red shadowing. It is hard to tell from old B&W photos. what has been your experience with similar vintage cars?
we think the cars were originally painted “Pullman Green” which seems to be sort of dark olive green rather than dark forest green.
by the way, I think the window shades are drawn in this photo…some not quite all the way down.
Eric,
I think Stan can certainly fix you up with some beautiful decals. Here’s some of his outstanding decals on a coach I am in the process of completing. Gold leaf with red outline.
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Doc Watson
Eric Schade said:
Thanks Stan—It is fun and interesting!
I am sure to need your services for this…you game? I think the lettering is gold leaf with red shadowing. It is hard to tell from old B&W photos. what has been your experience with similar vintage cars?
we think the cars were originally painted “Pullman Green” which seems to be sort of dark olive green rather than dark forest green.
by the way, I think the window shades are drawn in this photo…some not quite all the way down.
Eric,
I honestly think the lettering is on the cream/white scale and not the gold scale from this pic. I also think you are correct with red as the background on the lettering. What I do find interesting is the back font. It’s painted to make it look like the letters are say 3/4" thick and 3 dimensional. Compare the similar letters to Docs car and note the difference. I don’t really model this era but I do understand color and things done from this era as I love my history. Never really seen that style font (if I may call it that) before. Pretty neat.
I believe the lettering would match the watertable(sill) below the windows. I do think that the little strips on the top and bottom of the window casings may possibly be gold though. However that is only my perception on this picture. It was all about shadows, and minor details that made it pop back in the day in the hood. What I can suggest is looking at historic paint pallets from the era from companies that are still around like Sherwin Williams and Benjamin Moore…etc.
These are only my thoughts and by no means I’m no expert but I have consumed quite a bit of alcohol self educating myself on historic issues over the years and I’m ready to start a Drinking Blog with a History Problem myself.
I’ll “Shut up Rooster” myself on this …the build looks great and the blinds would have been a dark hunter green.
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Rooster, Sir…
Interesting…you could be right about the cream…or white? Lettering there seems to be a second pinstripe along thè car side … the “gold” ones plus a second color which looks darker than the surrounding green.
There has been some research on the basic paint color, the “Pullman green”. On one of the similar cars, a patch of undisturbed original paint was found. And the original specifications were found to be “Pullman Green”. DUPONT makes paint and is/was located near the Jackson and Sharpe plant. They still have several colors on the books called “Pullman Green” the color called “Old Pullman Green” looked the closest and a sample was ordered. It was a nearly perfect match to the original paint. We found some of the same original paint on coach #3. The boothbay railway village has painted their coach with this color. It looks tanner or yellower than the paint we currently have on coach #3.
I wish we could sample the original lettering too. Maybe it is called out in the specification for the order from J&S.
I didn’t realize Dupont was manufacturing paint in that period of time?
Neat stuff either way and I love decoding history myself!
Hi Eric,
I have been following your coach build, very nice work so far, and noticed you haven’t posted an update in a while. Sure would like to see how you are making the roof for this car. Can you please post an update? Hope everything is ok wiyh you.
Thanks Chuck
Well, I was away for three weeks but not totally forgetting about my coach project…
I was teaching a build your own kayak class at Chesapeake Light Craft At CLC, there is a new toy, a 60Watt commercial laser cutter/engraver.
John Harris the owner of Chesapeake Light Craft is a model airplane guy as well as a boat guy. He scratch builds flying air craft. the obvious thing for him was to get a laser to cut complicated parts accurately. He kindly offered his services to cut my roof beams. With my drawings it was just a few minutes labor to produce accurate drawings of the part I needed. I found, however, that much care should be taken to ensure that the drawing is clean…no stray snippets of lines, no doubled lines and such. The drawing of this part ended up being one complete “poly line” and all other bits removed. we then added short un-cut tabs to keep the parts with the stock plywood so they wouldn’t move.
the rafters were made with tabs that were intended to fit between two strips of wood, one being the letterboard on the outside of the car the other being a piece of trim inside the car. these two strips would also fit around the vertical studs between the windows. When assembled such that the strips are glued only to the rafters and not the studs, the roof can be removed.
Here things are dry fitted, clamped with clothes pins.
The letterboards were pre cut with the end profile for the hood ends over the platforms
with some glue in all the joints, the rafters are in place.
Nice work Eric! Always love watching your builds. That’s going to be one sharp looking car.
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Eric,
You’re pretty close to having a laser-cut kit of a coach. Why not go the whole way and ask John at Iron Horse to produce one for the rest of us?