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Eng. storage area to finish

Modeling
#1

Been trying to get around to this area to finish up with some kind of a background scene. and any ideas is welcome. Trying to just do a few 3-D building to put up on side of the storage Dutch barn.

Here is the area. ( This is an old photo that now has a run-around track and more sidings…)


Here is one stitch we have done so far.

And trying to make the left building or somewhat like the drawing. This area is not a real detailed area to have to make.

Course one buddy of ours said if screw up a window or door, just board it up. lol.

#2

Why not just make a round house on the wall, with tracks leading into it from the turntable… The rest of the town buildings can be added behind and to the sides…

#3

Andy Clarke said:

Why not just make a round house on the wall, with tracks leading into it from the turntable… The rest of the town buildings can be added behind and to the sides…
…
Andy, I tried that but not enough room for the track to line up. With only one door that would work, had to make it a Eng. shop or something like that for one track to look like it works off the table. There is only little over 4 inch’s from the pit. Wish I did have more room, that idea would look good as false roundhouse behind the turntable.
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/noelw/Smilies/frown.gif)

#4

I like the plan you have in place already pap

#5

Roundhouses are problematic aren’t they? Nothing says RAILROAD like a roundhouse…but they are real space hogs, and access locomotives inside them in a model environment is a bit of work…

#6

Bart,

I didn’t mean a full sized working roundhouse, Just the front doors on the wall, with short scrap sections of track looking like it went into the roundhouse on the backdrop… The buildings Noel is making are not the entire building, just a building front of the side view of the building… Thought the same could be done with the facade of a roundhouse…

Jusr seemd to me that the right backside could have been a 3 or 4 stall rounhouse facade with tracks leading off the turntable… Right backside meaning along the back, opposite of where the little building with ramp us now…

Was just an idea I had…

#7

Andy Clarke said:

Bart,

I didn’t mean a full sized working roundhouse, Just the front doors on the wall, with short scrap sections of track looking like it went into the roundhouse on the backdrop… The buildings Noel is making are not the entire building, just a building front of the side view of the building… Thought the same could be done with the facade of a roundhouse…

Jusr seemd to me that the right backside could have been a 3 or 4 stall rounhouse facade with tracks leading off the turntable… Right backside meaning along the back, opposite of where the little building with ramp us now…

Was just an idea I had…

Hi Andy. I’m starting on the Eng. house today and still trying to fig. out how you can see it as a 3 or stall Eng… house. "3-D with only 4 inches to work with?
Can you draw something out? I’m not a good scene painter for the back drop… Backdrop, It was only going to be 11 foot long and 2 1/2 foot high, then paint it light blue with a few spray on white clouds behind them…

We understand it not going to be working doors, just false fronts only. Only way I can see it is a lot of angles to make it look right, but hard to make it look real on side angles of building and roof angles to match the turntable with tracks up so close to the pit.
Guess old guy is not see what you can see. I’m open for anything. me

#8

noel, many roundhouses have a high front above the doors, with a roof sloping backwards.
so make the front high enough, then let the roofs slope down against the wall.
and four inches is very much space! one could build half a city in sihouettes in that space.
so, where the space is shortest, build one section flat to the wall.
that needs one thin sheet of plastic for the painting of the inside.
upon it thin sheets of blisterpacks for the windows and top it with 1/4" of brickwall or 1/8" of plankwall.

that leaves you with at least three and a half inch of rail to the pit. if you make the sleepers a little thinner, you can put one more, than normal, to give it optical length.
(making them a wee bit shorter helps as well)

if the doors will be about 5" 1/2 wide you can even open them.
if you make 5 stands, the both on the ends will have enough interior space, to have the doors at least half open and modell some interior and light.

really, it should be easy. would take me less than three years to do it.

#9

Korm…If I had more time I would look in to your idea but running out of time. Well I got it half done and like you said I made my with a high front, but only one main door… I Fig. just make it an Eng. shop.
Here is my quick and easy way I came up with due to trying to have a train run this Fri. and like to have a few buillding installed.
Here is somewhat like I sketched out before.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Eng.%20shop%202.jpg)
Its just under 4 foot long and 16 inches high.

This is just going to have a flat roof on it.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Eng.%20shop%203.jpg)
Have the plastic window cut out and spray white onone side so when having LEDs they will be shaded.

The Eng. door is 9 1/2 inched high and will be Harring board style on it. I cut out for a short pc. of track go under the door and out to the pit and will try to board in between the rails.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Eng.%20shop%205.jpg)
Hardest part was the top lovers across the front to make.
Should be able to get the brown trim done and lights by tomorrow and be done on this one.

#10

The Maint. and Mach Shop is finished.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Maint%20shop%203.jpg)
It has home made light over the door and LED’s to show thru the windows. Windows plastic is painted white.

Other added detail was a quick fire station with a Red LED.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Maint%20shop%204.jpg)

This like the other building will be powered off a toggle switch form the yard lights.
When get all of the buildings done will go back and install the signs and nbr on the buildings.
Night photo.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Shop%20night..jpg)

#11

Got the wiring done and lights in on the Eng. Shop. Now only thing left later on is the lettering and building nbr.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Eng.house%20day%20time..jpg)

Night time look.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Eng.%20shop%20night.jpg)

Two more buildings yet to go on the skitch sheet. " Yard tower with Maint. hand car shed."

Here is the simple wiring of the LED’s, I’m using old tel. ph. cable. ( 4 par-8 wires ) By using the cable sleeves, it can hide and protect the Resis. and solder connections. It’s fast and easy or if want to take more time can us shrink tubing but have to cut it off if need any repair… The sleeves just slide back for any replacements.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Wiring%201%20on%20Eng.%20shop..jpg)

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Wiring%202%20on%20Eng.%20shop..jpg)
The over head door lights are made the same way using the cable sleeves and add a washer painted green to the LED. At 10 foot scale you never know the difference.

#12

What brand of pep pills do you take? I never saw anybody do so much in such a short time.

And wow it looks great too! Your attention with the small realities such as fire apparatus, etc., really adds to the realism. A beautiful and artistic interpretation.

#13

Richard Smith said:

What brand of pep pills do you take? I never saw anybody do so much in such a short time.

i would like to know that too. for the same reasons.

the mouthpiece of the fire hose - is it bought or scratch? if scratch, please describe.

#14

Nice work… :slight_smile:

#15

Korm Kormsen said:

Richard Smith said:

What brand of pep pills do you take? I never saw anybody do so much in such a short time.

i would like to know that too. for the same reasons.

the mouthpiece of the fire hose - is it bought or scratch? if scratch, please describe.

…

PeP pills… hahahaha. Wish I had some… Jane has to kicks me in the rump to get things done around here. So i have to go and hide out in the back to get lost in the hobbys. lol. Just kidding.

The hobby comes from my younger days when Mom and Dad just hardly made a living in the late 30th’s and not much money to spend on toys… So I had to make most of my own stuff.
Then got in the Ho in the Early 50ths and there was not many kits or anything to buy. Back to build your own again.
Guess I’m still doing it like you and others do.

Korm, on the Fire station is what I seen on a lot of buildings on industry complex’s.
You asked for it…
He is mine… back to the Ho parts box.
I found a spoke trailing truck wheels and rev. the wheel on the axle to look like a hose reel. The valve is ph cable in two difference sizes, one small pc slide over the smaller one, throw a Ho truck wheel with only one wheel on the shaft and rev. the wheel. That the valve that set in a drilled hole in the cable sleeve. Very simple . Bend some old bailing wire for the stanchion to mounted to the building and put the cable will to make it look like piping to one end of the reel and end the stanchion bailing wire formed with a eye on it.
Add a Xmas tree LED light holder for the nozzle with ph cable sleeves and a handle to it. Some string for the hose.
Here is showing the parts that it took.

" Hate this Frt. shed that only can save a photo but doesn’t work to show on here. Have to put all photos up on my MLS web page to use. So it take time to copy and paste from there and find what I want to use. So have to put up on our editing. Just takes time. "

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Fire%20parts..jpg)
The Ho trailing truck wheel is showing on one the rev. flanges done on it.

This shows the finished reel and nozzle
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Turn%20Table%20Large/Fire%20parts%202.jpg)

Hope this helps

Richard… Ever sence you make your Cattle pen a few some, some, some, yr’s. ago , I been watching how your build your stuff and now got on how to do lettering with paint.

Korm. I seen you build a lot of stuff that amaze’s me… One is that Out house on a Rail truck with the biggest drain valve and piping I ever seen… lol. That a lot of poo to dump at one time… hahahaha.

Nick. S. Tk’s again for the comments and Tk’s for the ph call. Good to talk over trains stuff again.

#16

Nice job Noel.

:slight_smile:

#17

Noel,

If you look at Nick S’s rounhouse picture in this topic…

http://www.largescalecentral.com/forums/topic/19851/a-challenging-modeling-idea

What was talking about would have been to take saw and make a straight cut at a 90 degree angle off the wall closest to you right where the front of the window starts…

Make a 3 or 4 stall roundhouse, with a short section of track leads off the round table into the roundhouse… The wall closest to you would be about an inch deep, but the wall along the 3rd or 4th stall would be 4-6 inches deep…

I don’t have a drawing program on the computer, sorry…

Anyway, that’s what I was thinking…

#18

Andy Clarke said:

Noel,

If you look at Nick S’s rounhouse picture in this topic…

http://www.largescalecentral.com/forums/topic/19851/a-challenging-modeling-idea

What was talking about would have been to take saw and make a straight cut at a 90 degree angle off the wall closest to you right where the front of the window starts…

Make a 3 or 4 stall roundhouse, with a short section of track leads off the round table into the roundhouse… The wall closest to you would be about an inch deep, but the wall along the 3rd or 4th stall would be 4-6 inches deep…

I don’t have a drawing program on the computer, sorry…

Anyway, that’s what I was thinking…
…
Got’ch now Andy. Tk’s. but. still think Nick should send his out here for a test to see what you are talking about… hehehe.

#19

Noel, thanks for explaining.

#20

Yesterday I started cutting more siding for the last group of buildings for our Bakers Acres area out back.
I’m finely get that area finish up that is kind of a way back in the far corner of the layout and only way to get there is over the Koi pond bridge or around back of the Dutch Barn storage building.
About the only way to communicate to that yard is using intercom to rest of the layout. Kind of a bad location that is kind of hidden.
Anyway here is the start of the last building to be mounted as a group of 3-D front behind the large Turntable.

This is the yard tower and maint. storage building along side that stores the hand car.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Yard%20tower%202.jpg)

This is going to have the clear windows to show the inside of the tower with LED board lights only. so will be kind of dark except for the Panel color Tri-ax. LEDs.
Also shown is the Sw. levers console that is not finished yet.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Yard%20tower1.jpg)

This is showing about what it’s going to look like.
I must of cut that Roof angles 3 time to get it right for less than a Half of a roof for the 3-D look. Probably should of just make it out of 6 x 6 board as one pc.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/noelw/Yard%20tower.jpg)