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D&RGW 6500 series fishbelly flat car in Fn3

Alan Thomas said:

The next picture shows the progress I made on the underbody. 5 points to the person who can pick the error in my work!

My Guess: You built it upside down…the brake assembly should face the ground.

Sorry all, life has just been getting in the way and I haven’t provided an update of late. Things are progressing slowly and of late I have been reviewing the 3D prints. Some needed a few tweaks and these changes have been made and an order of updated 3Ds sent off.

This picture shows the truck without the journal lids or break shoes, but you get the idea. Also note there are bearings within the side frames to make the truck run nice and freely.

Boomer you are bang on, I got the airline on the wrong side. Silly thing is I used a prototype drawing which gave the view from the top, not underneath, oops! I do surprise myself sometimes with this mistakes!

Thanks

Alan

Al Pomeroy said:

Alan,

have been watching your progress, looks good. one thing to me that looks wrong with your brake rigging is that your brake cylinder seams awful small. if you send me a PM with your address I can send you a correctly scaled 1:20.3 Brake cylinder and maybe a couple of other trinkets that are not commercially available.

Al P.

Al

I finally got round to measuring the break cylinder tonight, the casting I’ve used is from Hartford.

Just to confuse things more, look at the below picture. The top brass casting is I think a Three Foot Classic which I assume 1:20.3, the middle is another Hartford casting from Ozark, but I think they have sent me the 1:24 casting instead of the 1:20.3 I ordered. Please note the middle casting is in two pieces and the 2nd piece isn’t shown. Any thoughts on the prototypical size?

Thanks

Alan

Alan,

the Hartford Brake cylinder is an 8x12 in cylinder. the correct cylinder is a 10x12 variety, so a little bigger. not sure if the brass part is three foot or trackside miniatures but is closer to correct size. probably easer to send you a 3d model of the correct cylinder and have you print. send me a PM and I will do so. brake pipe should be 1-1/4" pipe so should be about .080 in dia., branch pipe should be 1" pipe or .060 in Dia.

Al P.

Hi everyone, I haven’t been able to work or post about the project since Christmas time due to a few factors including an interstate move and a new job.

Things are starting to settle down and I’ve unpacked my modelling bits and pieces. Time to dust off the project and get it moving again. I’ve made a number of minor updates the laser cutting 2D drawings and ordered another set of laser cuttings to verify the changes.

The below picture is all the 3D printed masters ready to go to the foundry to make moulds for white metal castings

I’m still working on the project and its starting to come together.

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I had another set of flat car component laser cut after several updates to improve how it goes together. The below photos are some construction photos.

At this stage I’m happy with the result and will start getting things together to sell the components so you can make sure own flat car.

If you’re interested in purchasing the items, please send me private message and we can exchange emails.

Thanks

Alan

Are you plans to sell this as a kit? Any idea on the pricing?

Chris Kieffer said:

Are you plans to sell this as a kit? Any idea on the pricing?

As stated above:

“If you’re interested in purchasing the items, please send me private message and we can exchange emails.”

Let’s let the guy who I asked the question, answer it. That saves a lot of trouble.

Alan Thomas said:

I had another set of flat car component laser cut after several updates to improve how it goes together. The below photos are some construction photos.

At this stage I’m happy with the result and will start getting things together to sell the components so you can make sure own flat car.

If you’re interested in purchasing the items, please send me private message and we can exchange emails.

Thanks

Alan

Chris, I did quote the man…

From now on I will send my post to you for approval.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Yes I plan to sell the items as a sort of kit. I say sort of kit only because I will not box all the items in a nice box to save money due to logistics. The laser cut items and custom white metal castings will come from different supplies from different locations (Australia and USA) and I live in Australia. Most kits will be sold to the USA so if I ship all the items to me first and box it all up it will cost a fortune in shipping.

To make your own flat car you need to purchase the following designed by me:

  • Laser cut styrene kit
  • Custom white metal castings not commercially available

Others items to be sourced by you:

  • wheels
  • couplers
  • Tichy Train Group rivets
  • decals/paints/glues…
  • Other white metal castings from Ozark

The ins and outs of how all the parts get to when an order is placed is what I’m sorting now.

Hope this clears things up

Alan

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense how you are doing it. I was wondering because you are correct, shipping it will cost more than the parts. Do you have a cutter in the U.S. lined up?

Thanks again,

Chris

Welcome to the forum, Alan… It’s certainly a pleasure to see modelling skills being displayed and shared…

Thanks so very much for posting your work. (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)

Thanks for the kind words Stan.

Chris, yes I do have someone lined up in the USA to cut the streyne components. He also cut the parts I’ve assembled above, the photos above represent what you would get if you decide to purchase a set yourself when the time comes.

Thanks Alan

Very awesome.

I did two renditions of 6500 series flats in 1:22.5 scale using USA Trains flats as the start. Not prototypical, but then again 1:22.5 isn’t either (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

I had a posting years ago on how I did the kitbashes. But the photo links don’t work anymore so it is kind of useless.

But here is what one looks like:

Matt Doti said:

I did two renditions of 6500 series flats in 1:22.5 scale using USA Trains flats as the start. Not prototypical, but then again 1:22.5 isn’t either (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)…

…here is what one looks like:

Matt, what was your source for 1:22 tractors? The 1:18 ones commonly available look too big and overhang the edges of my flat car decks.

Dave

Hi Alan I’m interested in this kit, thanks Iain

Dave Goldsmith said:

Matt, what was your source for 1:22 tractors? The 1:18 ones commonly available look too big and overhang the edges of my flat car decks.

Dave

Ebay, they were old junkers that I painted/decaled and detailed.

Here’s one I found doing an ebay search:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-die-cast-yellow-tractor-5-inches/253737816960?hash=item3b13f3d380:g:lDIAAOSwUPZbOAPs

I added exhaust stacks and here is a more recent photo (more noticeable in the large image link):

Link to very large image

You can find pretty good tractors close to 1:22.5 on ebay. Just takes some searching and hoping the measurements are listed.

I did an earlier post about some other tractor remods, here is the link:

http://www.largescalecentral.com/forums/topic/25568/g-scale-tractors?page=1