Just for fun lets count how many time O.B.A.M.A. says “crisis” in his speech tonight.
I counted that he used “Crisis” 4 times. He must be listening to someone to have toned down his “Crisis Mentality”, so much. But he also said the United States invented the automobile and that the transcontinentel railroad was built during the Civil War. Going to have to rewrite some more of history for those words to fly. The most major thing I learned, that was pointed out by every talking head, on every network is that O.B.A.M.A. is an African American. Who knew? Let’s HOPE the Stock Market thought it was a good speech.
Liked the speech, liked it a lot. Reminded me a bit of Reagan’s early speeches, thoughtful and intelligent. A refreshing break from the last eight years.
Anyone stay and listen to the Republican rebuttal? Very well done. Had the Republicans put a reasoned and intelligent man like him up against Obama it might have been a race. Perhaps there is hope for the Republican Party yet. John McCain lost my vote, this man might have got it.
I thought the speeches were okay. I wasn’t overly inspried by either one. I did like Bobby Jendall’s story of the Sheriff telling the beauracrats where to go when they tried to stop private citizens from helping each other. I also liked the President’s story of the little girl that wrote a letter to the idiots in Washington telling them that her and her classmates won’t give up even if nobody will rebuild, clean up or fix her school. Wonder if that embarassed any of those parasites that each have 1.5 million dollars for their congressional staffs?
Politicians, put them all in one room, broadcast what they are doing and saying throughout the World and you still have nothing.
So we’re going to start out spending 800 billion, then we’ll cut taxes, increase spending and balance the budget?
Tom,
I think you got it.
The best line I heard was - we can compare this Stimulous package to taking your kid’s college fun to a casino, win at the slot machines and give all the money to charity for a tax write off.
Stock Market hasn’t shown much confidence about last night’s speech this morning, but maybe they are hoping they’ll feel better about it later in the day. 
It’s been an article of faith among republicans for the last 30 years that cutting taxes increases revenue. Reagan argued it, Bush argued it–it’s a centerpiece of Republican party economic thinking. I should think this would make you happy–it has really big tax cuts, which should increase revenues and thus pay for the spending
Reagan cut taxes and increased spending, so did Bush–did you object then?
On both counts of Reagan and Bush, income to the Gov did go up when the Taxes were cut.
The spending went up because the Dems had to get more for there hand outs.
One more thing to look at. JFK did a bigger tax cut program then Reagan or Bush. History is so much fun if you just know were to look.
Yes which is why the Clinton surplus is so hard to some people to remember
So spending on the Iraq war was just “the dems had to get their handout?” Spending on the Dept. of Homeland security? These were Dem projects? Spending increased because of Dems while Bush and the Republicans had a majority in both houses?
History is so much more convenient when you ignore the facts
Mike, your right, history has a funny way of looking when you look at it from the left, could not resist, funny the economy was doing ok till the democrats took over congress the last 2 years.
Mike I have one question, have you ever worked in the private sector or owned a business?
tomh
tom huisenga said:
Mike, your right, history has a funny way of looking when you look at it from the left, could not resist, funny the economy was doing ok till the democrats took over congress the last 2 years.Mike I have one question, have you ever worked in the private sector or owned a business?
tomh
Yes to the first no to the second. Is there where somebody starts making personal attacks, or assuming a whole bumch of things based on what i do for a living?
mike omalley said:
Yes which is why the Clinton surplus is so hard to some people to rememberSo spending on the Iraq war was just “the dems had to get their handout?” Spending on the Dept. of Homeland security? These were Dem projects? Spending increased because of Dems while Bush and the Republicans had a majority in both houses?
History is so much more convenient when you ignore the facts
Mike like it or not the Iraq war was due to this little thing called 9/11. Maybe you remimber seeing and reading about it. Now, before you get into your lib spin crap. ALL reports had WMD’s as bing there, even reports from other countrys and almost all members of the house and senate voted for it. now no finished WMD’s were found but everything pointing to them being and Iraq heading that way was found.
Now, please give me your Lib crap “it is all about oil or he did it for his Daddy” You know as well as I do that is all crap. The only thing Bush did wrong was let the politisions run the war and not the Genirals.
I do not like war, but if we have to go to war then do not tie the hands of the people having to fight it. Bush gave a lot to the dems to get there support and as always they now thought it back in his face. Just like they did with his dad. His dad gave in to the tax increase and you all used it to put Clinton in office.
If you are going to blame Bush then blame him for what he did. He tried to play nice and get along with the libs. Never should have done that.
Also there were not surrpluse under Clinton it was a cook the books thing he did to make it look that way.
Central Accounting Office did back that one up. All fact and now history.
Last thing, If JFK were alive today he would be a Republican. Cut taxes, strong on military. Just go back and look at what he wonted to do and what he did do. Looks very conservitive to me.
Geoff George said:
Mike like it or not the Iraq war was due to this little thing called 9/11. Maybe you remimber seeing and reading about it. Now, before you get into your lib spin crap. ALL reports had WMD’s as bing there, even reports from other countrys and almost all members of the house and senate voted for it. now no finished WMD’s were found but everything pointing to them being and Iraq heading that way was found. Now, please give me your Lib crap “it is all about oil or he did it for his Daddy” You know as well as I do that is all crap. The only thing Bush did wrong was let the politisions run the war and not the Genirals. I do not like war, but if we have to go to war then do not tie the hands of the people having to fight it. Bush gave a lot to the dems to get there support and as always they now thought it back in his face. Just like they did with his dad. His dad gave in to the tax increase and you all used it to put Clinton in office. If you are going to blame Bush then blame him for what he did. He tried to play nice and get along with the libs. Never should have done that. Also there were not surpluse under Clinton it was a cook the books thing he did to make it look that way. Central Accounting Office did back that one up. All fact and now history. Last thing, If JFK were alive today he would be a Republican. Cut taxes, strong on military. Just go back and look at what he wonted to do and what he did do. Looks very conservitive to me.
There’s no point in bringing facts to bear on this, is there? There were many, many people arguing that Saddam did NOT have WMD–including UN inspector Hans Blix, who said it repeatedly and was, in fact, absolutely right. There were many many people at the CIA who knew the WMD claims were bogus–they were ignored. Clinton thought Saddam probably had some WMD, but he judged–correctly–that the evidence was not strong enough to support an invasion. That’s the difference between good and bad jugement. Clinton had bad judgment in his private life, no doubt, but he didn’t send thousands to die in war for a foolish, reckless mistake. Did most member sof congress vote for? Yep. They were wrong as well but who was the commander in chief? On whose desk does the buck stop? All honor to American military who fought in Iraq: all shame to the commander in chief who sent them their on a fool’s errand which we are still paying for. Iran had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. Nothing. For twenty years, neocons like Wolfowitz and Perle and Cheney had been arguing that we should invade Iraq, that democracy would bloom magically and we’d have anally in the MIddle East. They were gulled by the soothing lies of Achmed Chalabi, who the CIA regarded as a liar and a fraud but who the neocons loved. They believed that if they removed Saddam, 100 walmarts would spring up like magic and we’d have little America in the Middle East. They were wrong. When General Shinseki told Rumsfeld it would take hundreds of thousands of troops, Rumsfeld retired him. Shinseki was right, Rumsfeld was wrong. Meanwhile Bush let the guy who WAS responsible for 9/11, Bin Laden, escape at Tora Bora: http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0304/p01s03-wosc.html Clinton DID produce a budget surplus, while Bush spent money faster than any Democrat in recent memory:
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And ran up the biggest deficit in recent history.
The only reason that Clinton produced a budget surplus is because Gingrich told him to.
Geoff George said:To use your own language Geoff, this sounds like conservative crap. Bush blew post 9/11 foreign policy big time, inexcusable. I lauded his dad's Iraq war policy and was angry Sr. decided to give up and leave it unfinished. Bush Sr. did a great job with a few mistakes...Junior made mostly mistakes and the occasional good deed. I cannot respect the conservative view or the Republican party until they "man-up" to the disaster the last eight years have been and call it like it is. Jindal's rebuttal was a step in the right direction but the GOP has a long way to go before I will ever support them financially again.
Mike like it or not the Iraq war was due to this little thing called 9/11. Maybe you remimber seeing and reading about it. Now, before you get into your lib spin crap. ...
Like him or not, Obama told us what he’d do and he’s doing it, something Bush seemed incapable of doing. I respect the man for that.
For you, if your income is low, and/or you have a lot of credit card bills and an increase in you mortgage payment due to a higher interest rate, do you go and get another credit line and run that up as well? Or do you cut out the satellite TV, fix up you old car, stop eating out as often, etc.
Congress has been run for 40 years until 1992, then again since 1994 (or 96?) by Democrats. Which isn’t to say the Republicans are innocent of spending more then the Constitution authorizes.
This isn’t about the donkeys or the elephants, it’s about our progeny’s survival, those we don’t send to war and kill, we tax the p155 out of.
M. Verbrugge said:Honestly, he told us what he was going to do and has not kept his word. He said: I will not appoint anyone to Washington that has ever been a lobbyist. He has at least 5 appointees that were lobbyist. He said: I want to cease the partisan bickering. But he has continued the attack on his detractors and even his AG called us all cowards. He said: I will bring our troops home within the first month of my administration. But he is not reducing the troop level to any degree in Iraq, and he is increasing the troop level (a troop surge, similar to what he was against in Iraq) in Afghanistan.Geoff George said:
Like him or not, Obama told us what he'd do and he's doing it, something Bush seemed incapable of doing. I respect the man for that.
He even said in his speech last night that the “Stimulus Bill” [sic] he signed “did not contain any pork.” Does ANYONE believe that whopper? This is only the beginning. Listen carefully, and drop the blinders.
Mike, no I am not going to attack you, just explains a lot of your thinking, people who have never worked in the private sector or owned a business, tend to think like you, most have never done anything for themselves, and do not understand that people do not like gov going in our pockets to STEAL our hard earned money.
They think government is the answer for everything, including you, but it is not government that made this country great, it is and was individuals who rose to accept the challenges in front of them, they DID NOT have the government looking over there shoulder to help them, they did it on there OWN.
I have met and talked to Ric Golding a couple of times, once at Martys and at the midwest show, I am 46 , and I look at him as an American treasure, people like him have more common sense and knowledge than any educator in this country, Mr. Blackburn from Alaska, who understands the freedom that all of us want, what do they have in common, instead of talking about things, they went out and did them, and have learned along the way more than you can ever teach out of a book.
I am sorry if I have embaressed Ric or Mr. Blackburn, I love learning from gentleman like that.
Mike, I would listen carefully when people like that speak, you want to know how great America is and what it should be? Listen to people like them!!
I will get off my soapbox now, but I want everyone to listen to people like that.
Tom h
Mike,
those with an interest know that you are close to the heart of the ‘problem’ in Washington, with possible access to sensitive material, unavailable to the rest of us. It seems that the more a person is aware of the true state of the problem, the less that the ill-informed is likely to believe in you.
I like these ill-informed people, with little knowlege outside their own immediate circumstance, who find like-minded people to choose as their mentors and inspiration in their lives. They see themselves as experts and able to express their experiences as the true shining path to freedom. End result is no net gain in the intelligence gathering, just more of the same crap being reinvented and regurgutated amongst like-minded individuals.
I appreciated your link to the Bin Laden 'prison escape'. Certainly smells of an inside job. Someone definately did not want him to be found.tom huisenga said:I have a lot of respect for Mike, and his opinions. Mike does his research. I don't always agree with his conclusions, but I know I can disagree with Mike and I won't be subject to insults. Mike does think..............I wish I could say the same about some others. Generalizations such as those made above........border on insulting.......and I'm being kind. I am wise enough to know I can learn from Mike..........as well as Ric. And many others too. Ralph
Mike, no I am not going to attack you, just explains a lot of your thinking, people who have never worked in the private sector or owned a business, tend to think like you, most have never done anything for themselves, and do not understand that people do not like gov going in our pockets to STEAL our hard earned money.