So now that I have the Climax…what should it pull? Logging Disconnects or Flats…? I have recently purchased 4 NOS Delton Hoppers for the American to haul… cale Found this:
nice bridge! here: http://www.pacificcohistory.org/steam.htm
Depends on the location you’re modeling. Many eastern logging operations used flat cars, as the trees were smaller in diameter than the monsters out west.
Later,
K
Right Coast Logging and Mining…so flats would do…
now, should I go for the new Bmann/AMS flat (I’d almost think it’d be too big) or could I get away with the Big Hauler/HLW flats since they are more narrow…much like my Delton Hoppers…Early Steam!
thanks Kevin!
cale
Depends which “east” you’re talking about, too. Many NH railroads used disconnects:
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/bob_mccown/_forumfiles/lincoln030.jpg)
If you like scratchbuilding, log cars are easy to make. Just cut strips of 3x8 wood and glue’em together. doesn’t have to be fancy or full of detail…
Bob McCown said:
Depends which “east” you’re talking about, too. Many NH railroads used disconnects:(http://www.lscdata.com/users/bob_mccown/_forumfiles/lincoln030.jpg)
Holy Smoke, It’s my Rogers with a Bunker and Logs! thanks guys! cale
Cool pic, Bob! When we gonna see that bridge on your railroad? That’s awesome in its own right.
As for which flat cars to use, I’d steer towards the Hartland cars. They’re fairly “rustic” in terms of details, which gives you a lot of creative freedom in how you detail them. They’d also be a bit smaller, more on par with a late 1880s flat car, which is also the era of the hoppers.
Later,
K
That bridge looks scary dangerous, in a “Oh, lets add another 2x4 here” kind of way. I’ve hiked the trails where the old EB&L RR was, and Ive gone over the piers for that bridge. Interesting spot. The ‘walkway’ about 10 feet up from the river was for the horse teams to be led across. They liked their 2-4-2s
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/bob_mccown/_forumfiles/lincoln018.jpg)
and this is neat, too
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/bob_mccown/_forumfiles/lincoln021.jpg)
And a nifty shot of a log landing.
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/bob_mccown/_forumfiles/lincoln032.jpg)
Just cause its a geared loco does NOT mean its stuck in logging. Hoppers, Boxes, Flats…anything is fair game. Any consist yer railroad can put together…
not a bad deal on the HLW-huh?
http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=200411993
that is, if you can get them to ship to you?
gonna call in just a few min to see what they say…
cale
Bart Salmons said:point well taken, Bart! Thanks!
Just cause its a geared loco does NOT mean its stuck in logging. Hoppers, Boxes, Flats.....anything is fair game. Any consist yer railroad can put together......
I am trying to build up some rolling stock to suit the trains that will pull them…The American will do hoppers and etc…, the Climax…as you mentioned can do flats and etc…
I’m thinking that more of the Big hauler cars would work? Box Cars, Stock Cars, and we know the Wood Ore cars will fit as well…I may actually be able to build consist with 1:22.5 cars that would look fine with my smaller Fn3 engines…and out of financial necessity, that may work out fine!
keep the ideas rolling in!
thanks
cale
You’ll find the 1:22.5 offerings on par with equipment built c. 1880, give or take a decade. I’ve been able to find examples of cars that match many of the 1:22.5 cars in at least two of the three pertinent dimension. The box cars most all tend to be a bit taller, as folks seemed to like to be able to stand at least almost upright inside them to unload freight, but there were exceptions to that rule as well. (The EBT’s early box cars are spot on for the height of the 1:22 Bachmann car.) Stock cars varied. The EBT had a Billmeyer and Smalls stock car which is virtually identical in size to Bachmann’s. Cows, pigs, and mules don’t stand upright.
I might be tempted–especially on the Bachmann flat car–to widen it with new side sills and then add a proper wood deck. Of all the cars, it’s the narrowest, scaling out at just a few inches over 6’ wide. By the 1880s, the “width = twice the gauge” rule had largely been discarded, and freight cars were pushing 7’. Personally, I think the Hartland cars would be nicer. They’re a bit wider, and a bit more rustic looking than the Bachmann car. You can have at it with some sandpaper and really give it some life.
Later,
K
Kevin Strong said:
Personally, I think the Hartland cars would be nicer. They're a bit wider, and a bit more rustic looking than the Bachmann car. You can have at it with some sandpaper and really give it some life.Later,
K
I did it…I ordered 5 of the HLW Flats from Wholesale (lantz) just now with Fran (trying to keep total inc shipping under $100)…she checked stock and verified they were there and ready to ship! “Should receive in 3 to 5 days via Fedex or DHL”…Placed the order and received conf #. Entire call lasted 6 min and 55 seconds…not too bad, considering it took 1+ min to answer the phone…Fran was very cordial and helpful…we’ll see what happens from here?
not to end the conversation, but thanks again!
cale
nice album shots cale!
Bob McCown said:
That bridge looks scary dangerous, in a “Oh, lets add another 2x4 here” kind of way. I’ve hiked the trails where the old EB&L RR was, and Ive gone over the piers for that bridge. Interesting spot. The ‘walkway’ about 10 feet up from the river was for the horse teams to be led across. They liked their 2-4-2s(http://www.lscdata.com/users/bob_mccown/_forumfiles/lincoln018.jpg)
and this is neat, too
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/bob_mccown/_forumfiles/lincoln021.jpg)
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/REA%202-4-2%205.jpg)
Adding a fuel bunker to the Aristo 2-4-2 Rogers makes a nifty little logger out of it.
got the flats today! Shoulda ordered 6, o well…now do you think I should add planks on the top, or scuff what is there?
Vic I have a Rogers that needs a bunker…how’d you do it?
Scuff what’s there. If memory serves, Hartland’s flats are among the rare few flat cars that actually model the groves between the ends of the boards, not just the tops. That doesn’t lend itself to adding a new deck, as you’d have the appearance of two layers of planks on the side. Fortunately, some 60 grit sandpaper does wonders! Use an x-acto blade or old hack-saw blade for the occasional deep split, etc. This is the Hartland short flat, whose deck and posts were treated in this fashion. The long flat should clean up just as nicely.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/projects/littleflat.jpg)
Some greyish-tan paint as a base, then a wash of very dilute black paint to bring out the grain. While this flat isn’t a Hartland flat, the deck was finished the same way. The end gates are wood stained with dilute black paint. There’s very little difference between the two.
(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/flat63/flat6305.jpg)
Later, K
Those vintage pics are great! On the photo showing the logs being loaded, what is the large pipe or hose than comes up from between the smoke stack and sandbox, and then goes down in front of the saddle tank?