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Changing sides on dual gauge track

From the same shop that provides those nifty shims for the guard rails. The track gauge is 64mm and 45mm, transfers from one side to the other using the guard rail.

What’s the link to the shop?

http://www.modell-werkstatt.de

BTW lots of interesting stuff in their shop.

Cool, but I would want mine to be a bit longer. Less of a jolt to the train when going over to the other (dark) side.

Quite so David , having witnessed a train going through it I decided not to buy it , it needs to be much longer . Derailing is common .

Mike

Is this properly referred to as a draw? I seem to remember that term from somewhere.

I guess it would have to be slow ordered.

David Maynard said:

Cool, but I would want mine to be a bit longer. Less of a jolt to the train when going over to the other (dark) side.

It’s designed for those cute German NG items which shouldn’t have a problem with the config.

Who/what runs on 64mm Ga.?

HI John, Nice to see you here. (always enjoyed your posts on another site.)

Assuming that the 45mm was 3 foot narrow gauge, the 64 would be a bit small for standard gauge in 1:20.3. Should be more like 70mm. I’ll probably have a stretch of that in my layout at a transfer terminal some day with a few static cars sitting. No running on it though.

I have thought about doing a transfer track with some large gauge track and boxcar or 2. But since I do not always run narrow gauge trains, the transfer track would look odd when I run the mainline stuff.

I run on dual gauge , in fact triple if you count 32mm alongside .

45mm is for 1/19 to 1/24 , 64 mm is for mainline stuff at 1/22.5 , and 32mm is used for several different setups , like from 18" in 7/8 to 30" at 1/22. We also use H0 as quarry stuff at 1/22 approx .

This will now provoke a lot of unseemly argument , so I shall say at the outset----that is what we use .

We do not count rivets , sleepers , and so fifth , but by golly we really do enjoy our chuffers .

Mike

Is this what you have at your armchair? LOL

I will stick with 45mm outside. I had plans for a Gn15 set up with HO gauge track, but right now that seams to be a far off project.

David , my armchair is made from it !!

Mike

PS GN15 is good fun , you can make a very small layout and still have a prototype look about it .

I put some pictures of Martyn’s GN15 models here , way back , but they’ve gone to the big recycling bin in the sky .

64mm gauge track is UK Gauge 3. Getting VERY popular for those with extensive spending power.

I suggest that you have a look at it in Youtube, particulalry movies from my good friend main131, foremr secretary of the G3 Society of UK.

An ever-increasing amount of rolling stock is becoming available in kit form from Garden Railway Specialists in Princes Risborough, UK, and a nice selection of maub Great Western locos, including a drop-dead gorgeous 0-4-2 Class 14XX live-steamer.

There are, of course, a few scratch builders of coal nd gas-fired models, including the srtreamlined A4s and a beautiful ‘Britannia’… the down-side is that the coaches are somewhat costy - cheap kits at $600 or so, and some nice ready-to-run at double the price, and an A4 needs around twelve of them.

Serious real esatate is not necessary though, given that you have a nice little country station and auto-coach train puttering around - electrically driven, for around $1500.00 or so.

There was a batch of large US locos made a few years ago, serilalised on the ‘other’ site, but AFAIR the $25,000 price, and the need for 30’ RADIUS track limited their appeal. Anybody else remember them?

tac
Ottawa Valley GRS

Just to remind you that Gauge 3 is the standard gauge that goes alongside IIM, or 1:22.5 - the 45mm representation of metre-gauge that is so popular in Europe and elsewhere and popularised by LGB.

A couple of German companies actually make sparkie Gauge 3 locomotives, but the price makes the $6500.00 British live-steam ‘Britannia’ look positively thrown at you. Look up Bockholt and see what I mean.

tac, etc

tac , when I was rich , I got the Prairie Tank and 3 Coaches as a set from GRS at Prince’s Risborough .

I made the tank and half the coaches . Your timely reminder means that my autumnal actions will involve finishing the job .

GRS really do make some nice stuff in standard guage . They also make the track , including dual guage , and that is also very well done----you can get that in kit form too .

Mike

I have a few photos of real-life ‘changing sides’ trackwork - mostly on the D&RGW. They ran into Denver station on dual gauge, and when you consider two adjacent tracks both with passenger access, then the NG had to be on the passenger’s side on both tracks. A pair of switches constituting a release from one track would have the NG on opposite sides - so they had to switch sides in the middle.

Same thing happened on a wye.

This drawing shows the change-over on a pair of adjacent tracks.

Pete , I have no doubt that what you say is correct , but I am having difficulty envisaging what you say .

Do you have an uploadable diagram or pictures ? I’d be really interested in seeing it . Don’t worry if you can’t , it’s not always easy to do these things at the drop of a hat .

Mike

John Caughey said:

Who/what runs on 64mm Ga.?

Spur 2 aka Standard gauge in 1:22.5