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#1

It is getting awful quiet here and everyone is becoming so agreeable.

A while back there was a question as to why anyone would want to seperate from the State they live in. Well, here are a few statistics brought to you by our State Government and fine representatives. Proud! Why of course we are proud.

We have the best government money can buy.
You never worry about your votes counting,
for they’ll count even after you die.

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Body count. In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago, 221 killed in Iraq.

Sens. Barack Obama & Dick Durbin, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike), Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)…our leadership in Illinois…all Democrats. And that is just the start of the list of names.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago. Of course they’re all blaming each other.

Up there you can’t blame Republicans, there aren’t any!

State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look’em up if you want). Chicago school system one of the worst in country. This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. He’s gonna ‘fix’ Washington politics? He’s a “Community Organizer”, he is.

ENJOY!

#2
Ric Golding said:
It is getting awful quiet here and everyone is becoming so agreeable.

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Body count. In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago …


Hell, no, it was all self-defence. Just ask 'em.

As for agreeable … ***********!!! and ###########!!!
So there.

#3

…grinning…

#4

After all these years the “Daley Machine” still runs Chicago.
Amazing.
Ralph

#5

…and the media makes such a fuss over 25 deaths in a train accident out West…and there is so little talk about how many persons die in automobile accidents every day in North America.

We are truely “Screwed up” in our idea of what is normal and where…

#6

This is akin to blaming McCain for the thousands of illegals that cross the US border into Arizona each year. Then again, the stupidity of America seems boundless at times.

-Brian

#7

Rick, Just change the names and you have described New Jersey. Nick Jr

#8

Obama likes crime! He wants to turn Iowa into Chicago! He lives in a place that has relatively high crime, it’s his fault! HE’S PRO-CRIME!!!

Sure, that makes sense.

#9

Mike,

I know you are being sarcastic, but Obama is a product of the Chicago Machine Politics. He was a “Community Organizer” (that’s code words for sh*t disturber) in very rough neighborhoods, they were tough before he came on the scene, he made his mark by how he was going to change these bad neighborhoods and they are just as bad as before and he has moved on to change the whole country. Chicago has graft and corruption down to a science, “just cuss your dead don’t mean your vote don’t count”.

#10

Chicago HAS curruption, I’m from Detroit! The mayor is on the way to the pokey, city is broke, and every year the city ranks in the top 3 for every crime you can think of- and our un employment stats has risen to almost 9%! and right now Obama has the projected lead in the voting here - man, are we in trouble!

#11

So Obama is somehow responsible for Chicago’s crime rate, or rather , as a state senator and “community organizer” he failed to stop this problem!

Meanwhile, while McCain was a US senator for 28 years we got involved in a pointless and seemingly endless war in Iraq which has cost us more than 1 trillion dollars, and killed thousands of people, and wasted more money than Chicago ever dreamed of, AND he presided over a regime of financial recklessness that will now cost us another 1 trillion dollars to fix. All this happened while McCain was a senator–and for MUCH longer than Obama was in Chicago.

So by all means, vote for McCain

#12

The sad thing is I don’t think either candidate is any better overall than the other. I think this country is in real trouble and will be for sometime, just my .02 worth.

#13
Fred Ottusch said:
The sad thing is I don't think either candidate is any better overall than the other. I think this country is in real trouble and will be for sometime, just my .02 worth.
Yeah, hate to argee with a comment like that but as long as BOTH parties only care about their own party and not what ALL americans need, then we will always just be spinning our wheels!
#14

Bob Barr.

#15

I always thought that American political parties were made up of American citizens…when did that change ? Who are the people now, that belong to political parties in the US of A ?

#16
Fred Mills said:
I always thought that American political parties were made up of American citizens......when did that change ? Who are the people now, that belong to political parties in the US of A ?
Fred you miss my point that political parties are in themselves self serving and do not care about the people outside their own party eventhough their "majority" is say 50.01 percent, which then means that they have free reign, which quite frankly doesn't work best for whats "right" for all.
#17

‘Community Organizer’, do we need a President like Al Sharpton??? Nick Jr

#18
Nick Peluso Jr said:
'Community Organizer', do we need a President like Al Sharpton???? Nick Jr
My god that's just so ridiculous and stupid.

No we don’t need a president like al sharpton

No, Obama is not like Al Sharpton, unless you think that all black people are alike–which perhaps you do

Or if you think all community organizers are alike, in which case you might want to read the last sentence of this quote, which I’ll separate out for you.

"Faith-based and community organizing (FBCO) is a methodology for developing power and relationships throughout a community of institutions such as congregations, unions, and associations. Built on the work of Saul Alinsky (who dedicated his book Rules for Radicals to Lucifer, the “first radical”[2]) in the mid-1900s, there are now 180 FBCOs in the US as well as in South Africa, England, Germany, and other nations (according to Interfaith Funders’ 2001 study Faith Based Community Organizing: State of the Field, by Mark Warren and Richard Wood). Local organizations are often linked through organizing networks such as the Industrial Areas Foundation, Direct Action and Research Training (DART) Center, and People Improving Communities through Organizing[citation needed].

In the United States starting in 2001, the Bush Administration launched a department to promote community organizing of this type, which included faith-based organizing as well other community groups."

So see, there are may kinds of community organizers, who range from radical to conservative. They are not all alike, just as all Italian americans are not ignorant

#19
Mark Dash said:
Fred Ottusch said:
The sad thing is I don't think either candidate is any better overall than the other. I think this country is in real trouble and will be for sometime, just my .02 worth.
Yeah, hate to argee with a comment like that but as long as BOTH parties only care about their own party and not what ALL americans need, then we will always just be spinning our wheels!
it looks like foreigners see the USA in a different way, maybe they wrap themselves not with the flag, have therefor a clearer view of things.

Denk global Pius

#20
Fred Mills said:
I always thought that American political parties were made up of American citizens......when did that change ? Who are the people now, that belong to political parties in the US of A ?
Hey Fred, partially you are right, people vote for either party, but in a real democratize there are more then just two opinions. Since The democratize in the USA ends on state level, in the end the senate ( FEDS) runs the country, and all of us know that the senate is run by sponsors with special interest, and if you listen to the political ads, you know that sponsoring is getting more every year. So where are the American Citizens to end that? Think global Pius