Beating the Boredom - Brunt Coal on the C.V.S.Ry.

Rooster · April 22, 2020, 12:15am

David Marconi,FOGCH said:

Jon, I keep asking myself ‘Do you really need the first bents?’ now that you have created the shelf for the girder ends to rest on with the addition of the retaining wall?

Personally I would just make a girder foot for each beam to rest on the wall. If room is needed I’ve seen blocks left out of the top of the wall to create a pocket for the girder ends (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

YMMV

Yes !

It adds to the focal point !

Certainly would have been done (have proof with Williams Grove) on the 1:1 back in the day.

Rooster · April 22, 2020, 12:17am

I’m sorry Jon …carry on…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVxzTb1ippM

JRad · April 22, 2020, 3:04am

Rooster ’ said:

I’m sorry Jon …carry on…

OK my wayward son.

David Marconi,FOGCH said:

Flip your paper mock up top to bottom and you’ll have your angle (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Yup. Needed to re-square the ends but lots better than erasing and gives me both.

Rooster ’ said:

Too many straight lines in you’re mock up …just saying and it’s only my opinion …need some irregularities IMO …however it’s only my opinion and either way it’s your RR and what makes you happy.

Still going to stay with the concrete block construction as 18" x 36", but to break it up the cap stones on the ramp will be 12" x 48". It will get much more irregular around the corner if that ever gets built. I think I’m ready to start cutting and carving foam.

John_Caughey · April 22, 2020, 3:22am

I like a facing bent or stone wings (buttresses) to carry the RR weight. Let the stones retain the dirt.

David_Marconi_FOGCH · April 22, 2020, 9:58am

John Caughey said:

I like a facing bent or stone wings (buttresses) to carry the RR weight. Let the stones retain the dirt.

Yes about every 25’ would give a good bit of character to the wall. Nice touch John (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

JRad · April 22, 2020, 1:36pm

John Caughey said:

I like a facing bent or stone wings (buttresses) to carry the RR weight. Let the stones retain the dirt.

That’s a very interesting thought, but I think I’ll need to pass on that idea. The tracks are quite close together and I need room (at some future point) to model unloading and maybe build a conveyor to carry coal into one of the buildings.

I also don’t want to get so hung up in the background details that I get frustrated and quit. I went from an operating indoor railroad three weeks ago to one that is torn apart and littered with construction tools and debris. I’d like to get back to running trains soon.

JRad · April 22, 2020, 4:02pm

David Marconi,FOGCH said:

John Caughey said:

I like a facing bent or stone wings (buttresses) to carry the RR weight. Let the stones retain the dirt.

Yes about every 25’ would give a good bit of character to the wall. Nice touch John (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

On second thought… The foam I have left is not long enough for an entire run. The scale run is just over 60 feet, so a buttress of sorts every 20- feet could be used to hide the seam. I’ll make it work!

David_Marconi_FOGCH · April 22, 2020, 7:28pm

You might as well go the route and add the recessed arches. I didn’t mark all the block lines (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

JRad · April 22, 2020, 9:38pm

David Marconi,FOGCH said:

You might as well go the route and add the recessed arches. I didn’t mark all the block lines (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

Right. You must have missed this…

Jon Radder said:

I also don’t want to get so hung up in the background details that I get frustrated and quit. I went from an operating indoor railroad three weeks ago to one that is torn apart and littered with construction tools and debris. I’d like to get back to running trains soon.

JRad · April 23, 2020, 1:43pm

Made some progress yesterday. After struggling for a bit on a method to safely cut the taper on my table saw, I opted to clamp a wood fence to the work piece and use my battery operated circular saw to cut the angles. The final result was a little different than the paper plan, but it works…

I spent the rest of the day and evening drawing out the lines to be carved. I decided for this one, I would use pencil thinking the lead will help darken the grout lines when I carve…

And, just so Hollywood is not disappointed, I did include one culvert arch. It’s in a spot that one will need to lean in to see, but it’s there…

And here is an overall view with some scraps standing in for the counterforts that will be designed and cut today…

And finally, so Sean can put together his before and after images, here is a pull back shot of the area…

Progress today might be slow as it is supposed to be dry today and I have some outdoor honey-do’s to attend to!

AndyC · April 23, 2020, 3:38pm

Progress looks great, Jon… (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

smcgill · April 23, 2020, 3:53pm

(http://lsc.cvsry.com/Post2020/BruntCoal20-57.jpg)

It’s all down hill from here …

JRad · April 23, 2020, 9:32pm

Finished carving and started coloring. Here are some shots of a dry fit test…

And some close ups of the culvert arch that no one will ever see…

I’m not happy with the coloring yet, but I still have some tricks yet to use. Just a little fabrication and carving to do before I’m ready to glue this on and move forward. In the last shot it’s easy to see the styrene cover I made for the PVC roadbed and coated with flat black vinyl. It will be a base for ballast stone once the track is back in place.

I don’t know if I’ve mentioned in this thread that the wire brush on foam technique came from Yogi Wallace.

RGSNH · April 23, 2020, 10:01pm

Jon,

have you found one of these yet? I have not finished my version yet but it will consume a lot of resin.

(https://www.largescalecentral.com/FileSharing/user_2560/RGSNH/dump.JPG)

AL P.

John_Caughey · April 23, 2020, 10:41pm

Tricky keystone adaption!

JRad · April 23, 2020, 11:49pm

John Caughey said:

Tricky keystone adaption!

One of the reasons it was done where it will be hard to see (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)

JRad · April 23, 2020, 11:55pm

Al Pomeroy said:

Jon,

have you found one of these yet? I have not finished my version yet but it will consume a lot of resin.

AL P.

No, not yet. I searched for 1:18 trucks but the only thing I found that was even close to being old enough was a re-make of a Tonka dump that was typically lacking in detail. It may serve as a base for building something, but I’d rather find something RTR. I’m leaning towards late 40’s early 50’s vintage - or if I could find a late 50’s Mack Bulldog that would be awesome as I spent many summers as a kid watching them drive back and forth to a stone quarry down the street from my house.

Not saying your design would also work. You say Resin; are you planning on casting all the parts, or is that set up for 3D print? Just read the thread on resin printing and answered my own question.