Large Scale Central

Bachmann Switch Stand Adapter

I really like the Bachmann switch stands, nice and straight forward, gives you a visual of the throw position.

However… they don’t work with my Train Li “wide radius” turnouts. This is because the switch stands mount to two adjacent ties – without skipping a tie, like many switch machines. And since my TL turnouts have a circuit board and reed switch beneath that “middle” tie, I can’t do some dremelling and shove it in.

Do PIKO turnouts have this issue? Photos suggest they might, but I can’t tell what’s going on with the underside.

While putting some track together over last weekend, it occurred to me that an adapter could be made to convert the BM stand to a wider tie stance, skipping the middle tie, just like many switch machines.

So here it be:

In a nutshell, this replaces the two mid-range length adapters (the loose bits shown above), which are included in the BM kit. It requires replacement of the thrown rod with the medium-length one, also in the kit.

The adapter can be parked on the left or right of the stand, in order to mount the thing on either side of the turnout.

These are printed in brown PETG, which is said to be good for outdoor used.

Jerry B and I will be trying them out soon, hopefully they will work fine.

Cliff

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Nice! Good solution to the problem.

I began converting my throws to these a few years ago. I bought to cases from Robbie a few years back at ECLSTS. I’ve only managed to use 5 so far and they have solved some switch splitting issues on my Aristo Wide switches. They also sit low enough that a loco with a lot of front overhang (K-27) doesn’t get hung up on them. You probably saw my spring switch modification I posted early this spring.

I can't say about Train-Li but I know these are a straight swap with my LGB manual mechanisms, I've only had one no-go, and that was with a very very old LGB double slip that had a weird set up with the switch motor mounts. I really like these and have replaced all my mainline manual turnout mechs, I like that they are a positive movement not wishy-washy like the wimpy LGB mechs.

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Very timely, Cliff, as a few of my LGB R1 turnouts are showing their age! I was going to ask about repairing one where the spring gave way, but maybe replacing it entirely is a better solution.

Eric

I really like those switch stands, mine will all be manual, so they should work just fine on my LGB switches. I will have to see who has them at the best price online, if you know where and who has them let me know. They look like the pole could be extended with square brass tubing and put a lantern on them, for mainline use, Thanks

trainman

Nice Cliffy!

The one caveat about these is that the weak spring in a standard LGB will allow heavy trains to roll thru a closed switch without derailing. The Bachmann unit physically presses the rails together meaning you will likely never get a split switch derail, but it also guarantees a derail if a train rolls over a closed switch because that puppy will be locked in place.

Very true, Vic. I wish the stands were set up with a spring like that.

John L.,

Reindeer Pass Railroad has the B’man swtichstands, and the price beats e-Bay (http://www.reindeerpass.com/bachmann-e-z-riders-w-ball-bearings-4-1.aspx). The proprietors are wonderful folks, and they have really worked with me in the past to keep shipping low. Interestingly, LGB manual turnouts are actually cheaper (https://www.trainli.com/lgb-track-switch-maintenance-286/lgb-12060-manual-switch-drive-p-7047) per unit, but they don’t have the nifty signals. For the record, I have also had nothing but positive experiences with TrainLi, too.

Eric

John L.,

Reindeer Pass Railroad has the B’man swtichstands, and the price beats e-Bay (http://www.reindeerpass.com/bachmann-e-z-riders-w-ball-bearings-4-1.aspx). The proprietors are wonderful folks, and they have really worked with me in the past to keep shipping low. Interestingly, LGB manual turnouts are actually cheaper (https://www.trainli.com/lgb-track-switch-maintenance-286/lgb-12060-manual-switch-drive-p-7047) per unit, but they don’t have the nifty signals. For the record, I have also had nothing but positive experiences with TrainLi, too.

Eric

Cliff,

Good thinking on your 3D printed adapter. Would you share the file with us? I could use this on a couple of our club railway switches. (https://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)

Eric Mueller said:

John L.,

Reindeer Pass Railroad has the B’man swtichstands, and the price beats e-Bay (http://www.reindeerpass.com/bachmann-e-z-riders-w-ball-bearings-4-1.aspx). The proprietors are wonderful folks, and they have really worked with me in the past to keep shipping low. Interestingly, LGB manual turnouts are actually cheaper (https://www.trainli.com/lgb-track-switch-maintenance-286/lgb-12060-manual-switch-drive-p-7047) per unit, but they don’t have the nifty signals. For the record, I have also had nothing but positive experiences with TrainLi, too.

Eric

Thanks Eric, I will have to order some, good price, JL

trainman

Does anyone know of a switch lanterns that mount up from the bottom, I did use the USA TRAINS lanterns on my cabooses and passenger cars which I cut them down some on the top and bottom to give them more a scale look, but since these have side mounts they would not work for switch stands. I would like to find some in that size range, I know there are some in brass, but they tend to be scale size and much smaller, thanks

trainman

Joe Zullo said:

Cliff,

Good thinking on your 3D printed adapter. Would you share the file with us? I could use this on a couple of our club railway switches. (https://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)

Thanks Joe, and you bet. Here it is.

Here is the Bachmann in operation, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFIvvKHlXME

trainman

Cliff Jennings said:

Joe Zullo said:

Cliff,

Good thinking on your 3D printed adapter. Would you share the file with us? I could use this on a couple of our club railway switches. (https://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)

Thanks Joe, and you bet. Here it is.

Thank you very much. I’m printing one right now to show the guys at the train club tomorrow. I’m using ASA filament. Nice modeling Cliff. I wish I could model in 3D.

Cliff,

Just a note to let you know that the print came out just fine in ASA filament and works /fits great. Thank You. (https://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

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thanks for the update Joe!

Can you post a picture of it installed?

My printer nozzle can 90 deg, do you think it can do ASA?

Cliff Jennings said:

thanks for the update Joe!

Can you post a picture of it installed?

My printer nozzle can 90 deg, do you think it can do ASA?

ASA filament requires an extruder temp.of 240- 280ºF So if you meant your nozzle can do 290ºF you are good to go.

Wow, a whole video, I’m speechless, Joe! I just installed mine this morning, and it seemed to do fine. I was relieved.

Yeah, my nozzle will only do 194F, so no go on the ASA for me. But, the PETG printed well, and at least that’s opined to be ok for outdoors. We’ll see how long it lasts.

Thanks very much for reporting back on how it went for you.