Shawn said:shawn, yes you are, but what kind of steam guy??? 0-4-0, 0-6-0, 2-4-0, 2-4-2, 4-4-2, 4-4-4, 2-6-0, 2-6-2, 4-6-2, 4-6-4, 2-8-0, 2-8-2, 4-8-2, 4-8-4, 2-10-2, 2-10-4, 4-10-4, 2-6-6-2, 2-6-6-4, 4-6-6-2, 4-6-6-4, 2-8-8-2, 4-8-8-4, Live steam, battery power, or track power, a coal burner, a wood burner, or an oil burner???
You guys are making me dizzy with all this sw-1, f40ph stuf. Glad Im a steam guy :)
hehehe 
Shawn…we will try again this year, at the Invasion, to treat Andy’s afliction…he has Dieselititous, and has to be kept on his meds, or he gets carried away with numbers…as you have just seen…
Mr Polk announced the build of the sw1 a few years ago before he gave the reigns to Scott. I asked a few times on the Aristo forum if this was still a go. More than once the reply was yes. However that was a while ago. I have noticed that a few dealers are listing the loco with a TBA enclosed. I have also heard that the loco would use the same motor blocks as the new interurban trolley uses. But that’s just hear say until we see the real deal. As far as gauging the interest in such a loco I would have thought that would have been done before committing to build it.?
All hail diesel down with the steam !!! Ha Ha Ha oh boy did I just make some enemies
I’m still waiting for the SD-9 
The SW-1 has been mentioned by Lewis Polk over and over… He has stated that the PCC trucks will drive it.
As for advertising it way ahead of production, just research the SD-9 which was advertised for years and had an aristo part number and never happened.
I believe as soon as Aristo gets some spending money they’ll definitely make the SW-1.
Greg
TROY MALECKI said:You mean powered boxcars. :)
All hail diesel down with the steam !!!!! Ha Ha Ha oh boy did I just make some enemies :)
Shawn said:I call them "toolboxes on wheels" :PTROY MALECKI said:You mean powered boxcars. :)
All hail diesel down with the steam !!!!! Ha Ha Ha oh boy did I just make some enemies :)
Steam cigar on wheels
Good point , forgot about the sd9.
Polk today in the recent Aristo- propaganda newsletter said the sw1 is still on a burner, only need 9995 more people to agree to get one if they do it (10k is apparently what he needs to make it worth the $$)
So I guess on a final note on this thread I think retailers should remove these ghost listings especially since its bad for business. I live by the creed if you can’t sell it or have it don’t advertise it. That’s good business. New people just starting out in this scale might be alittle turned off by retailers trying to sell phantom products no one really makes or has in stock. We need to try to be better in all areas of the scale to enhance a new persons expectations if we want this end of the hobby to grow. Thanks Troy Malecki
TROY MALECKI said:I concur, I still remember getting my first GRwy Mag and scanning the Trainworld ad. I decided I needed the Aristo Railbus in Southern Livery....only to call and be told it was outta stock. I was totally unaware that's how it 'was'. it was a turnoff-heck I still remember the disappointment. Good and Valid point, that will prob never be heeded by those who need to act :(
So I guess on a final note on this thread I think retailers should remove these ghost listings especially since its bad for business. [b]I live by the creed if you can't sell it or have it don't advertise it. That's good business. New people just starting out in this scale might be alittle turned off by retailers trying to sell phantom products no one really makes or has in stock. We need to try to be better in all areas of the scale to enhance a new persons expectations if we want this end of the hobby to grow. [/b]Thanks Troy Malecki
cale
If it wasn’t for this ghost listing and you guys talking about it I wouldn’t have known Aristo was even considering a new engine. Demand for this product is the only thing that will create the supply. Hiding this information doesn’t create demand it hurts it.
Mark, Aristo has been talking about the SW-1 for years, and I believe it has even been shown in some catalogs. You gotta get out more 
I don’t live on forum boards and the internet Greg
Two very good retailers have this listing for the sw1 up with no prices I have dealt with both and have been very happy. A good point made earlier is that aristo should advertise it not retailers if they want interest in it. There have been a lot of manufactures that pull these future projects because lack of interest and preorders.
Cale Nelson said:
I concur, I still remember getting my first GRwy Mag and scanning the Trainworld ad. I decided I needed the Aristo Railbus in Southern Livery…only to call and be told it was outta stock. I was totally unaware that’s how it ‘was’. it was a turnoff-heck I still remember the disappointment. Good and Valid point, that will prob never be heeded by those who need to act
cale
a while back…went to train world website…ordered a wedge plow replacement …paid for it…and got a call a couple days later to tell me they hadn’t had one of those in stock for over a year…a little madening to say the least…finaly just built my own…and a couple for friends.
later all Gerry
Mark Dash said:
If it wasn’t for this ghost listing and you guys talking about it I wouldn’t have known Aristo was even considering a new engine. Demand for this product is the only thing that will create the supply. Hiding this information doesn’t create demand it hurts it.
I was reacting to your phrase “Hiding this information”.
How can you say it’s hiding?
I mention it has been expressed many times, and then you say you don’t live on the Internet or forums?
Who is to blame for hiding? You certainly cannot blame Aristo, it’s been expressed many times.
Greg
A well know German manufacturer announces it’s forthcoming productions, then determines the amount of interest gauged by actual orders with retailers then culls the items not receiving sufficient actual orders.
It is human nature to await an item’s release before outlaying any money on it. Howver, with the German manufacturer one is basically coerced into making a firm preorder commitment to ensure production proceeds.