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Aristo Craft engines

I would have to go with a modern engine. I think the public will respond better to what they see on the rails today.

Of course a rerun of E8s would not hurt. (have to teach them history also)

Still like my RS3s and GP40s.

Kevin

Gotta make something new with those GP40 trucks. FP7/9, F40PH, GP40W, GP40HH, or MP15.

Although those MODERN, BIG locomotives are rather spectacular, they sure don’t help the average “Model Railroader”, unless they are collectors.They do tend to attract attention, but very few people have a layout that would make their operation at all attractive.

The BIG locomotives do not look at all impressive, unless they are operating on L O N G stretches of track with VERY broad curves, of at least 15-20 foot diameter, and pulling at least 30 cars, preferably more… Nothing looks more ridiculous, to a knowledgeable Model Railroader, than a Modern Dash 9, pulling a short train of obviously Narrow Gauge cars, around a loop of 4 foot radius curves… BUT…if that pleases you, and brings you great pleasure…that is your privilege, and I will defend your right to do it.

Yes they do provide a great view of the models they represent, of the real locomotives, when perched on a display shelf, or mantle piece…

The most needed locomotives are the smaller ones. Depending on space limitations, the average modeller is faced with, these needed locomotives could range from the fairly common “Industrial” 0-4-0’s to moderate sized 4 wheeled trucked Diesel Electric types. As far as Steam type locomotives; the same thinking is needed; anything from an industrial 0-4-0 to a moderate 2-8-0, but not the rather heavy locomotives, that seem to attract collectors, in droves.

To use only two of many examples, I’d suggest , the rather good, and always being improved, B’mann 10 wheeler, Aristo RS 3, and the USTrains GP series of locomotives.

Fred Mills said:

Although those MODERN, BIG locomotives are rather spectacular, they sure don’t help the average “Model Railroader”, unless they are collectors.They do tend to attract attention, but very few people have a layout that would make their operation at all attractive.

The BIG locomotives do not look at all impressive, unless they are operating on L O N G stretches of track with VERY broad curves, of at least 15-20 foot diameter, and pulling at least 30 cars, preferably more… Nothing looks more ridiculous, to a knowledgeable Model Railroader, than a Modern Dash 9, pulling a short train of obviously Narrow Gauge cars, around a loop of 4 foot radius curves… BUT…if that pleases you, and brings you great pleasure…that is your privilege, and I will defend your right to do it.

Yes they do provide a great view of the models they represent, of the real locomotives, when perched on a display shelf, or mantle piece…

The most needed locomotives are the smaller ones. Depending on space limitations, the average modeller is faced with, these needed locomotives could range from the fairly common “Industrial” 0-4-0’s to moderate sized 4 wheeled trucked Diesel Electric types. As far as Steam type locomotives; the same thinking is needed; anything from an industrial 0-4-0 to a moderate 2-8-0, but not the rather heavy locomotives, that seem to attract collectors, in droves.

To use only two of many examples, I’d suggest , the rather good, and always being improved, B’mann 10 wheeler, Aristo RS 3, and the USTrains GP series of locomotives.

I have to agree with you Fred but unfortunately it seems we are the minority these days. I find the big diesels and steamers get the attention. Just look at posts on the forums and responses. The big stuff gets the attention. Part of the reason why I went to live steam more 0-4-0 type engines.

Im not sure what I would like to see come back from the Aristo line. Maybe the C16 but in 1:20 scale and it would be great to see the snowplow come back.

My curves suggest Branch Line railroading… most likely backing up required to get home …

Lots of roads had them and drivers of all sizes …

I have been told by a couple of dealers that the dash 9 was there best seller, and was told that Bachmann was actively looking for all of the metal dyes.

cheers richard

A moldest sized Prairie, like those pictured above, would be nice.

Edit to correct autocorrect

The Aristo C16 was in reality a very small locomotive, and by producing it in 1:24, as Delton had, before Aristo got the dies, it was a rather small model, as compared with the LGB Mogul, or the B’mann Annie.

The Last major steam locomotive B’mann produced was in 1:20.3, and the prototype was somewhere around the size of the C16. By producing the C18, or was it C19, in 1:20.3, Bachmann gave us a great locomotive, of a size that could be accepted (Forgetting that it was basically a D&RGW/RGS locomotive in narrow gauge) a locomotive that in model form, could be operated with 1:22.5, and 1:29 rolling stock, without too much difference, and looking rather realistic. True, the cab might be a bit large, but without placing any 1:29, or !:22.5 figures in it, it looks fine.

I have had one on the IPP&W at one time or another, and closely looked at it placed beside a B’mann Annie, an LGB Mogul, a B’mann Connie, LGB and B’mann Passenger cars, and yes, even 1:29, Aristo heavy weights…and my eyes let me feel comfortable. I’m not “Everyone”, but as far as I’m concerned, that last offering from B’mann, is probably the least appreciated, trouble-free, LS steam profile locomotives yet produced, and if lettered for YOUR railroad, would be a great candidate for anyone’s steam roster.

If I live long enough, and can find the funds, (Street priced) I I would be quite content to welcome two of them to share the engine house with my Annies, an LGB Mogul and Connies…

My dream roster is: Two of the latest Annies; Two Connies; Two of the B’mann C18’s (Or whatever the class is), and my lonely, highly modified, LGB Mogul. All of them look rather good with the two fleets of rolling stock that reside here on the IPP&W…at least to my dimming eyes…!! (Oh, BTW, they would all be lettered for the IPP&W, as I’m NOT modelling any other railroad.

Please, Please, don’t get the idea that I’m trying to promote Bachmann; but if a model locomotive performs well while in service for me, and looks good, I feel free to promote it. I haven’t owned any SG locomotives, for many years, so I’ll not comment of Diesel Electric style locomotives.

Fred Mills

John Caughey said:

My curves suggest Branch Line railroading… most likely backing up required to get home …

John,

I happened to notice the flange-less middle driver on this one. Just like my BACHMANN ten wheelers!

Yes; I often hoped that Bachmann would produce a 2-6-2 locomotive as a sister to the Annie. In fact I think someone did get Kader (Bachmann’s owner) to produce one, using some of the original Big Hauler moulds. It was a rather cheap “Christmas Train” sort of locomotive, and was poorly geared, never being produced using the B’mann name. The rolling stock were basicly old Big Hauler stuff, a flat, gondola, and bobber caboose. Those pictures sure give great ideas of steam locomotives that would be great for the average LS modeller to use on a pike that might fit into a small back yard.

John, and Joe; thanks for posting them.

The OP asked which ARISTO locomotives you would like to see Bachmann produce, we seemed to have been derailed here !

Yea, we should wait 'till we get to page three before the free for all starts!

Nice pics

I particularly liked the C B & Q 1950.

Seems to me that it wouldn’t take much work to make that from an Annie

The tender is the harder part

Maybe Bachmann could sell a few of those

Bill

Gary Buchanan, FOG said:

The OP asked which ARISTO locomotives you would like to see Bachmann produce, we seemed to have been derailed here !

I am so ashamed … So personally I’d like another C-16, what about you Gary?

John

Started to add this but got distracted

ARISTO locos to re-make - my first choice would be for the GE-9’s and maybe a 2-8-0 but that would depend on the price point

Bill

How about a GE-9 back dated and modified to be a GE-8 ?

Gary Buchanan, FOG said:

The OP asked which ARISTO locomotives you would like to see Bachmann produce, we seemed to have been derailed here !

By mutual agreement, we have to wait to page three before hijacking a thread.

Bill the only near term possibility seems to be a re-issue of an Aristo loco… not even a tweak to a slightly different variation. My best guess but the question by the op was clear.

This might be one of the few forums that Bachmann listens to, so think of this thread as a sales job to Bachmann. It might be best for us to have some clear requests to Bachmann, not pie in the sky or even a small snack as it were.

Greg

I’d love to see Dash9’s again. Second hope would be the gp40. :smiley:

No votes for the SD-45 ? It is a powerhouse of a locomotive but from an earlier era in dieseldom (is that a word?)

Bill