Could someone please tell me what this means… http://deadrailinstalls.com/blue-rail/
Seems that bluetooth is considered deadrail too…
Greg Elmassian said:
Re-read the 3:04 pm post … I stated my thinking.
Greg
Except that the post is 6:04 PM, adjusted for the time zone difference I guess. And your other posts are"Null"? It wasn’t my intent to make you mad enough to erase your posts.
Craig Townsend said:
Could someone please tell me what this means… http://deadrailinstalls.com/blue-rail/
Seems that bluetooth is considered deadrail too…
Craig, there are no trons flowing through the rails, therefore, they are dead. Deadrail.
I know that Steve, it was in response to Greg’s comment…
Freerails is up and running again.
http://www.freerails.com/view_forum.php?id=45
Plenty of information in all scales on the various types of battery powered dead rail control systems, one of which is the Crest Revo assuming of course it does appear again.
**Greg Elmassian said:**Who’s definition of deadrail is right, by now I don’t give a rat’s patoot… when I talk about it, I mean DCC over wireless like the Tam Valley stuff.
It’s that, and many other flavors. And just to muddy the waters even further, there’s talk on the Dead Rail Society’s Facebook page of BlueRail introducing a Bluetooth receiver which will interface with DCC decoders. That’s one step closer to one of my ideal throttles–a graphic representation on my phone or tablet of a locomotive backhead or diesel control stand, where if you want to go forward, you move the Johnson bar into forward. If you want to turn on the headlights, you flip the “headlight” switch on the control stand. That’s realism to the next level. No knobs or buttons–the real controls creating realistic responses in the locomotive on the track.
The future’s coming soon. I’m ready to see where it takes me!
Later,
K
Kevin,
How can you say “…a graphic representation on my phone or tablet of a locomotive backhead or diesel control stand, where if you want to go forward, you move the Johnson bar into forward. If you want to turn on the headlights, you flip the “headlight” switch on the control stand. That’s realism to the next level. No knobs or buttons–the real controls creating realistic responses in the locomotive on the track” when a telephone screen has no tactile feel whatsoever?
Mind over matter??
Tony:
There is this emerging technology such as Morphing Tactile Keyboard to iPad Mini. You can also Google “haptics” as some other possible approaches. Maybe Kevin’s desires are reasonably on the horizon.
Mark
Tony Walsham said:
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Mind over matter??
Actually, Tony, I think the flood of technology in our lives is making matter over mind.
(Not to steer this discussion off-topic or anything.)
Tony, I’m thinking in terms of a simulator experience. The current phone/tablet interfaces are basically graphic pictures of the current crop of pushbotton and knob handheld throttles. Where’s the fun in that? If I wanted knobs and pushbuttons, there are plenty of options available (including your throttles). I write that as someone who runs his trains exclusively with knobs and pushbuttons. It’s not a slam, but it’s not the same as having your hand on a real throttle, either.
If you’ve got a screen, and are controlling your trains based solely on where you touch on that screen, there’s no reason you can’t use a photo of a real cab, and use your finger to put the loco into forward, move the throttle to notch 5, pull the cord to blow the horn, and slowly take off.
Later,
K
Cool, I want.
Precisely, but in this case, a graphic for tablet/phone instead of a physical box (though I’d prefer the physical box myself… might even convert me to a diesel person.) I have a friend who built a controller for his live steamer which consisted of a dissected 2.4gHz 2-stick radio, whose controls were re-engineered to match a photo of the backhead of a locomotive. Levers for throttle and reverse, and a knob for the blower, if I recall correctly. No lights, bells, or whistles, though they could easily be added with pushbuttons and toggle switches.
It’s fun to dream. A lot of what we’re seeing in today’s sound systems are things we only dreamed of 10 years ago. The core technology is there. All we have to do is figure out how to put it to best use.
Later,
K
A few comments down, someone suggested this modification of the unit for steam, including the fireman’s panel.
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Good find Steve.
That looks as though it would solve the lack of screen viewability outdoors and no tactile feel. It would work right nicely if they could make it properly useable with DCC sound decoders.
Depending on cost, I would go so far as to say it would obsolete EVERY other form of battery R/C overnight.
Live steamers would be right at home too.
You could use the same overlay with different graphics for diesel locos.
Might I suggest you start a new thread so as not to derail this thread completely.
Tony Walsham said:
Good find Steve.
That looks as thought it would solve the lack of screen viewability outdoors and no tactile feel. It would work right nicely if they could make it properly useable with DCC sound decoders.
Depending on cost, I would go so far as to say it would obsolete EVERY other form of battery R/C overnight.
Live steamers would be right at home too.
You could use the same overlay with different graphics for diesel locos.
Might I suggest you start a new thread so as not to derail this thread completely.
OK after all that, anyone hear anything new? For something that should start in less than a month, product should be on the water, assuming it will still be manufactured in Korea… although I did not check the country of mfg before.
Greg
Don’t know for sure but heard mfg USA
Cheers
WOW
I want one (or three) depending on cost as is always the case
Looks really good and easy to use
Can’t wait to get one and try it out
Bill