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WV&K version of Uintah Combine 50

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#1

I’ve long admired the ‘streamlined’ look of Uintah’s Combine 50, a wooden trussrod car that was rebuilt with a steel skin.

Finding a 7/8 scale caboose frame laying around The Bunker, I decided that I could execute a rendition for the WV&K for use as a Miner’s Accomodation Car for the run to Buchanan. Construction so far is fairly straight forward. The aforementioned frame, with a plexiglass subframe and a 3/16 luan overlay to provide for some thickness of the walls. The wood will be overlayed with a styrene ‘skin’ to simulate the steel skin of the prototype…

#2

Very cool! I look forward to seeing your progress.

The Unitah RR sure had some interesting equipment!

#3

Pretty neat! Looks like another fun project.

#4

hmmm, can’t wait to see the finished product…

#5

The Sumpter Valley RR (Where the 2 Uintah mallets went) has some unusual rounded roof passenger cars as well.
They would be an interesting build.
jb

#6

The Unitah Railroad has always seemed to be very utilitarian to me. Need something build it or make do with something that will serve the purpose. I look forward to seeing your coach example.

#7
Ric Golding said:
The Unitah Railroad has always seemed to be very utilitarian to me. Need something build it or make do with something that will serve the purpose. I look forward to seeing your coach example.
Ric, Did the remnants of Ike keep you busy yesterday at the marina? Ralph
#8

Ralph,

Ric was rather occupied yesterday & friday evening… He very generously helped with some track laying and ballasting at the Bluestone Southern, as we are getting ready for the “Club picnic” this afternoon…

#9

Ralph,

It has almost missed us completely. 1.25 of rain and heavy wind, but we get that in a thunderstorm. Big sailboat race this weekend, the “Whale of a Sail”. Sometimes 250 boats on the starting line. I heard reports of lots of fair weather sailers that stayed at home or spent more time at the Wine and Art Festival than on the boat.

#10

Dusting off this project after more than a year! I remember where I stopped now. The roof over the platform. Looks basically like a steel awning. I’m seriously considering a homemade vacuform for this part. anyone else got a suggestion?

(http://photoswest.org/photos/00016251/00016372.jpg)

#11

If you don’t have a vacuform machine, you could just heat the styrene sheet and pull it down over a wooden form, then trim off the excess. The shape is simple enough that it should work without the vacuum. I’ve seen this done for things like tractor hoods.

#12

How about a wooden male form plug, well waxed to prevent sticking and epoxy glue saturated cloth, like an old t-shirt stretched over it. Pop off the plug and shape and fill for final shape. I did this to make a sail on the Tuckerton Rail Car. It has held up real well.

#13

Would be possible but it looks like the whole roof is sheet metal…anyone going to Golden anytime soon? This car is at the Museum there…

#14

Ric’s suggestion would work even for a metal roof, at least to get the form. I’d probably use fiberglass resin and its attendant cloth for the roof, then sand the top smooth once it’s dry. Then I’d probably use aluminum tape for the individual metal panels.

Later,

K

#15

Found these searching for more photos of this car, which I’d never really paid attention to before you brought it up!

(http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?july06/07-31-06/uintah50P.jpg)

(side view)

(http://jeffstrainsite.com/railfan_pics/railroad_museums/colorado/uintahrailway_coach_50.jpg)

(wrong end, but in color) http://www.denverrails.com/db/singlepix.cfm?pix_id=6670 (apparently EVERYONE loves the wrong end.) Interesting piece. Apparently the Gazette (Sept/Oct 1989) had drawings, as the search results are filled with references… not too many photos jump out at first look though. Matthew (OV)

#16

I was going cheap on the T shirt for the cloth. We sell a bi-axle firberglass cloth that will form and stay to any shape when “Wetted Out”. A little expensive, but you would use such a small amount that it wouldn’t matter that much. Please contact me offline if you want more info on this. I didn’t post this to be a commercial venture. :wink:

#17

First post on LScentral but have been monitoring this site for a few month & MLS for 3-4 years.

Uintah Railway by Henry E. Bender Jr, has a plan for #50 on page 172 by David W. Braun dated Oct 10, 1967.
I don’t know how to use my scanner and don’t know about copyright if I had any way to post it here.

For starters, here are some basic measurements: End sill to end sill 37’ 7" , 27" dia wheels, trucks center of journal to center of journal 10’ 0", center of truck to center of truck 23’ 6"

Other observations: side of your photo does have 6 windows. Other side has 7 with last one appearing to be just inside the baggage area divider. Original photo of this 7th window shows it beng a pane but an end of line photo shows it boarded over (possibly shade pulled) but both are on inside. Roof overhang on passenger end does not quite cover end sill.

Using caliper I can come pretty close to other dimensions using the scale provided. Let me know if you would like this done. Ted Nordin