Just gonna throw this out here, my friend and I are looking for one of the LGB Harz 2-10-2t locomotives, not the Aster metal one, but the plastic one made prior to the bankruptcy of the old LGB. Can have sound or not, either works. Obviously the non sound should be cheaper and thats kind of our plan. We hope to find one much cheaper than the new version due out next month at over $1600. Thanks Mike and Steve.