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Winters coming

Modeling Rolling stock
#1

Yes after sweating like crazy today I realized that snow in Syracuse can happen as early as October. Since going battery power I no longer have to worry about dc track connections so the line will need to be cleared. Modeling the D&H Ausable branch, a Jordan Spreader was stationed at Rouses Point NY. So that’s what I’m working on, The Prototype:

Progress to date -

#2

snow is a 4-letter word. Go wash yer mouf out wif soap.

#3

I hope and pray for 3 inches of snow minimum per day from Nov 1 - March 17th

This landscaper needs to pay off the new HD plow (4k) and snow blower (1K) from LAST year!!

#4

Are you by any chance going to make the wings moveable? Be sure to add a bunch of weight to the front end. I out 2 USA trains locomotive weights in my plow and it seem to work fine I have just as of an ugly project on going here…

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/541856_10150706723706912_1247234832_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/528465_10150706719561912_381307301_n.jpg)

Hopefully it will look like this some day.

(http://www.railcarphotos.com/pix/5/BN%20972813_Sandpoint%20ID_Scott%20Barr_2005-04-06_5921.jpg)

Ugly snow plows are the most interesting and unusual piece of railway equipment. :slight_smile: Craig

#5

Craig, If you look at the model vs prototype you can notice that the front plow is a little deeper then the prototype, so that I can get more weights onto the front.

Yes the wings will be moveable, but not for plowing. working on the wings today while it finally rains :slight_smile:

#6
Mark Dash said:
Craig, If you look at the model vs prototype you can notice that the front plow is a little deeper then the prototype, so that I can get more weights onto the front.

Yes the wings will be moveable, but not for plowing. working on the wings today while it finally rains :slight_smile:


I want to make my wings operable and be able to move some snow. Finding the right parts to replicate the prototype hinges is going to be hard. But I might have found some model airplane parts that might work… Looking forward to seeing you progress on this project.

#7

Craig,

Keep in mind that mass does not scale. If you stay too close to scale on some components, they will continually break due to being insufficient in strength to push the weight of the snow, especially if it is the least bit wet.

Bob C.

#8

I agree with Bob, snow doesn’t fall on garden railroads to scale, more then an inch of snow is a scale “blizzard” the real thing, atleast on my prototype uses air pressure to push out the wings, but if you look at the top of the wing arm there is a ratchet type system that locks the arm in place. doing that to scale I doubt would work well.

You might consider a solid insert when actually plowing snow or extra removable braces

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdLcaYfdFA&feature=player_detailpage

#9

(http://www.trainweb.org/dhvm/images/dhrr_mow/Don-Rickle/35055-01.jpg)

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1901978_1467180866843619_1082251738_n.jpg)

#10
Mark Dash said:
I agree with Bob, snow doesn't fall on garden railroads to scale, more then an inch of snow is a scale "blizzard" the real thing, atleast on my prototype uses air pressure to push out the wings, but if you look at the top of the wing arm there is a ratchet type system that locks the arm in place. doing that to scale I doubt would work well.

You might consider a solid insert when actually plowing snow or extra removable braces

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdLcaYfdFA&feature=player_detailpage


The BN snow dozer uses a air piston to move the side wings out and then they lock it into place. I’ll try and find a picture of the wing out to show you. What did you use for that hinge in the back?

Craig

#11

The back hinge is a universal joint off an aristocraft engine block from an Fa unit. The prototype has a step landing over the joint

#12

Mark Dash said:
The back hinge is a universal joint off an aristocraft engine block from an Fa unit. The prototype has a step landing over the joint

Hum I have to look and see how big it would look on mine dozer… Here’s how the side wing moves out.

(http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/6/1/7/3617.1166162400.jpg)

At the rear end it has a similar universal joint but it is a little different. Somewhere I have a picture of the wing from the backside. Craig

#13

Yours should be slightly easier as the main support are 2 simple hinges, the only universal you would need is where the swing bar attaches to the frame. that’s IF you want you make the plow prototypical to raise and lower along that pulley system like in the picture. otherwise a simple hinge would work.

#14

Mark, Here’s some pictures I found on my hard drive. I can’t remember where I found all of them but it seems you can find something once online, and then months later you can’t find it again. :frowning: This might help you out with your build.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/553162_10151024069326912_61876669_n.jpg)

Close up of the wing attachment on the BN dozer in the shops.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/283725_10151024069656912_364832407_n.jpg)

The wing on your jordan spreader should look similar to this when it’s fully extended.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558230_10151024069736912_32375145_n.jpg)

Normal plowing doesn’t use the side wings, it’s just mostly for clearing the right of way a little more.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/428884_10151024069911912_1367794840_n.jpg)

This is about as flexiable as the wing can get too without breaking. I doubt anything in scale (on the front hinge) would be strong enough to handle this type of plowing… A universal joint for the back might be strong enough from an O scale locomotive and be a little more scale sized…

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/528146_10151024069866912_14006363_n.jpg)

If you really want to make things interesting PSME has in their catalog working hydraulic and pneumatic pistons of various sizes… :stuck_out_tongue:

#15

Right now my modeling skills follow the 20 foot rule (meaning if your not 20 feet away from me when you say “Hey that’s not prototypical” you getting your arse kicked!!!)

ROFLMAO yeah me putting real pistons in this model isn’t going to happen. Maybe when I actually know what I’m doing in the distant future. Good to know though cause 1 Jordan won’t be enough and having one that actually is remote controlled would be awesome :slight_smile:

#16
Mark Dash said:
Right now my modeling skills follow the 20 foot rule (meaning if your not 20 feet away from me when you say "Hey that's not prototypical" you getting your arse kicked!!!)
I am so stealing that.
#17
Mark Dash said:
Right now my modeling skills follow the 20 foot rule (meaning if your not 20 feet away from me when you say "Hey that's not prototypical" you getting your arse kicked!!!)

ROFLMAO yeah me putting real pistons in this model isn’t going to happen. Maybe when I actually know what I’m doing in the distant future. Good to know though cause 1 Jordan won’t be enough and having one that actually is remote controlled would be awesome :slight_smile:


That’s a good one… I just thought I would throw it out there you never know what you might want to try some day… :stuck_out_tongue:

#18

…:)…
We want R/C with real pistons!

#19
David Russell said:
....:)..... We want R/C with real pistons!
Okay you first Rooster... :P Start adding them to your Amcrash fleet and add working brakes...
#20

Yeah ok Craig so I’m thinking that lego cylinders might actually work - http://www.techno-stuff.com/AirSol.htm

and rooster can make an engine or 2 for inside his Amtrash trains - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccoXQxvwjU0&feature=related