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Wildfires!

General Discussion
#21
Terry A de C Foley said:
Steve Featherkile said:
...It could be powered by a generator and triggered by a thermostat and suck water out of the swimming pool..
I guess we live at different ends of the realty rainbow - I don't know anybody who has a swimming pool.

Guess I just fergot that where you live you ALL have swimming pools.

tac


TAC

Swimming pools are for those who want to pour money into the ground. No swimming pool in our yard either.
Matter of fact when we were house shopping in '99 we told the REA not to bother us with swimming pools. But we have a hot tub, used all year round as required when resired.

#22

Swimmin’ pools are for those that live in California, Arizona and Florida. They’re the only ones with enough money. The only swimming pools you see around here are the blow-up kiddie pools in the summer.

Does it ever get warm enough, or dry enough to desire a pool in England?

Now…if we had all the tourist and park trains and live steam clubs and other railroad clubs and organizations that England has…:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :stuck_out_tongue:

#23

The idea still has merit, even if it means sucking water out of the city main. It would only need to be on for the few minutes that the house was in danger, controlled by thermostat, set at say 200F, spray a fine mist which would not require a huge amount of water. The mist would block the fire, and be timed to shut down after, say 3 minutes. Any wildfire should have blown through in that time.

#24

Poway was on the news here last night. Hope all’s well with you and yours, Ray.

Completely concur with the necessity for draconian building codes in high fire-risk areas, and with the observation that some fires just ain’t gonna be stopped no matter what taxes are levied.

#25

Steve, a mist type spray would evaporate in the heat before it ever did any good. Besides with winds gusting up to 100mph the mist wouldn’t be effective at all. Now, to drain the pool with an inside sprinkler system…that might work.

#26
Warren Mumpower said:
Steve, a mist type spray would evaporate in the heat before it ever did any good. Besides with winds gusting up to 100mph the mist wouldn't be effective at all. Now, to drain the pool with an inside sprinkler system...that might work.
It works at sea, Warren, perhaps not with winds gusting up to 100 kts, but pretty strong winds, none-the-less. And, the mist type spray is used by Navy firefighters to protect themselves as they advance on the fire. At firefighting school, I've been within 3 feet of a 500 gallon DFM fire behind just such a spray in my dungarees, and only felt wet. There was no heat.
#27

Problem is…at sea, you have an unlimited dedicated water supply…no worries about pressure or downflow head…and there is a point in firefighting where yer just making steam, not really helping…

#28
Bart Salmons said:
Problem is.....at sea, you have an unlimited dedicated water supply......no worries about pressure or downflow head......and there is a point in firefighting where yer just making steam, not really helping.......
I'm not trying to put out a fire, just trying to put up a screen of water for a few minutes while the firestorm passes by.
#29
Bart Salmons said:
Problem is.....at sea, you have an unlimited dedicated water supply......no worries about pressure or downflow head......and there is a point in firefighting where yer just making steam, not really helping.......
But at sea .....theres no place to run to , nowhere else to go when your ship is on fire !

We had 2 fires on board , worse was a shaft alley fire , ammo magazine on one side , fuel tank on the other , THAT makes it real intense !

Ah yes Steve , fire fighting school , nozzleman on the big tank fire training , long aqo .

Fires are horrible where ever , when ever , they are !

#30

After the big fire in 2003, there was a lot of interest in methods and devices for protecting one’s home in a wildfire. The local news tried out several of them, the best was a foam that you spray onto your house with a garden hose. It was long-lasting and held up to the flames of a blow torch. It was intended to be sprayed on just before you evacuate. Haven’t heard anything about it since then.

The winds have mellowed somewhat today and evacuation orders have been lifted for a few areas.

#31
Ray Dunakin said:
After the big fire in 2003, there was a lot of interest in methods and devices for protecting one's home in a wildfire. The local news tried out several of them, the best was a foam that you spray onto your house with a garden hose. It was long-lasting and held up to the flames of a blow torch. It was intended to be sprayed on just before you evacuate. Haven't heard anything about it since then.

The winds have mellowed somewhat today and evacuation orders have been lifted for a few areas.


We could add AFFF to the mix. That would really work well. AFFF is Aqueous Foam Forming Film, used to fight fire at sea.

Some nights in the Sea of Japan between Japan and Korea, it becomes the Automatic Fishing Fleet Finder. :smiley: “Just aim for the dark spots,” the Skipper said.