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Who owns the former Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk oHG trademarks

John Joseph Sauer said:
It really is amazing how much you know about the Richter's thier business and thier personal lives considering you never worked for them, your not related to them and you have absolutely no connection whatsoever to anyone or anything connected to EPL. Amazing!
It is, isn't it!?! :lol: :lol:

Some people refer to that as “well read, well connected.” :wink: :slight_smile: :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

PS Forgot the other part “paying attention to details.”

And some refer to it as an “active imagination”!

John Joseph Sauer said:
And some refer to it as an “active imagination”!

That is quite possible, considering how the RBB and the Ventilators have problems with proper terms and definitions (not to mention spelling and grammar), I am not in the least surprised. Having problems with one’s native language spells disaster if one has to use Bablefish and Google to translate, Google and Bablefish muck it up in translation and then it gets “interpreted”. :wink: :lol:

(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/teufel/devil-smiley-023.gif)

Looks to me like another 21 page yadda yadda yadda!! LOL

Jerry- I could keep him going until tomorrow if I wanted to. Some folks just have to get in the last word no matter what- it’s a silly game.

Jerry Hansen said:
Looks to me like another 21 page yadda yadda yadda!! LOL
Jerry,

That’s what happens when people are clutching at straws and can’t face reality as in :Märklin has the trademarks, those trademarks and rights that some “experts” liked to question.

BTW Marvin, in his many incarnations, hasn’t found the right approach yet to get me off balance. With his “talents” he never will. :lol:

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Welllll, it could be a whole lot worse. At least they don't have their bankers freeze all their accounts and prohibit them from delivering anything. :D

OTOH when the CEO just talks a good job, instead of doing a good job …

But there again, the slogan is probably “We are well within projections and everything is normal.” That must be the standard routine in the German MRR industry, last time we could read that was when Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk oHG went bankrupt. Variations could be heard just before Fleischmann sold out to the Salzburgers, too.

BTW on those salary reductions to the employees, they could start with cutting out the Vacation and Christmas bonuses. I’m sure those ex-LGB employees who are still there could “wise up” the others that that was how EPL oHG tried to steer the course, too.


THEY ARE THE BANKERS!

The current CEO IS on the skids!

THEY are saying: “We are well within projections and everything is normal.”

THEY are trying to cut wages! (Mainly out of the German workers!)

Sounds like history is repeating.

I would guess we’ll see LGB cut loose in less than 6 months!

I don’t know but it sounds like someone is getting ready to abort the “Mission for Marklin”!

Hans-Joerg Mueller wrote:

[The employees at Märklin have one advantage, a union.]

Many companies went belly up or moved over the past years, unions or no unions.

I’ve been told that only 35% in Germany are in the Union. “Give backs” would only serve to reduce their unemployment if the big “M” goes belly up.

Ever notice how first the Ventilators tried to squash any and all discussion of what was happening with the old EPL, and now they do nothing but try to subvert the new owners?

Must be part of the “big plan”, started with Shoentag, right?

Maybe we can get the company back for a song.

Maybe not.

Looks like another pillar of the Religion fell when the facts on who owns the necessary trademarks was published.

What do they have left to base the religion on now?

“Wait until next week!”

The trademarks were never in dispute- It’s distribution rights that are in question.
One thing seems obvious- Kingsbridge/Marklin doesn’t seem to be able to make money with the trademarks they fought so hard to usurp!

Usurp???

JJS,
‘usurp’ implies collusion or deceipt. It may be a surprise to you but in all three LGBoA bids to acquire the remains of EPL after the boys had their fun, always came up a few Euro short of the required mark. Only usurping is the final death knells of the company in 2005/2006 and then it was raped mid-2006 with the ‘selling’ of LGBoA to G45 along with worldwide distribution rights outside of Germany.

   John,  when you come over to the right side of the fence away from the ringmaster publicist and his clowns,  you will see the fall of EPL in a different light.  LGBoA hung around like vultures ready to swoop on the carrion that remained in 2007.  If the numerous LGBoA bids for the company in 2007 exceeded the Marklin offer then you may have scoring points,  however,  the bids mysteriously always fell short - a little surprising to me!!!!!  Shoentag was left in the lurch by person or persons unknown in early 2007,  paving the way for a LGBoA acquisition.  However,  the master plan orchestrated several years earlier,  did not factor Kingsbridge/Marklin into the equation.  In days of old the loser would have been vanquished or fallen on his sword.  You comment that HJ always has to have the last word.  John,  look in the mirror!
TonyWalsham said:
Usurp???
It goes on Uwaffles...
Jack Barton said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Welllll, it could be a whole lot worse. At least they don't have their bankers freeze all their accounts and prohibit them from delivering anything. :D

OTOH when the CEO just talks a good job, instead of doing a good job …

But there again, the slogan is probably “We are well within projections and everything is normal.” That must be the standard routine in the German MRR industry, last time we could read that was when Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk oHG went bankrupt. Variations could be heard just before Fleischmann sold out to the Salzburgers, too.

BTW on those salary reductions to the employees, they could start with cutting out the Vacation and Christmas bonuses. I’m sure those ex-LGB employees who are still there could “wise up” the others that that was how EPL oHG tried to steer the course, too.


THEY ARE THE BANKERS!

The current CEO IS on the skids!

THEY are saying: “We are well within projections and everything is normal.”

THEY are trying to cut wages! (Mainly out of the German workers!)

Sounds like history is repeating.
I would guess we’ll see LGB cut loose in less than 6 months!


Hey Jack, nice to see that you finally get the hang of things i.e. who owns what and who is in charge. Get your buddies together, break the piggy banks, check the funds under the mattress, you could just about scrape enough funds together to come up less short this time. That should be a consolation - just a bit less short! On the time frame; did you polish your crystal ball or was it the burning in your urine? :smiley:

Marvin, JJ or whichever of the many personas is in charge today

“Mission for Märklin” … good one! Did you think that I suffer from the same maladies as the Ventilators and the RBB? Having illusions and being deluded? Sheesh the lenses in my frames are as clear as day, no red tint, not even the slightest shade. Bi-focals to see the details, excellent peripheral vision since I haven’t been fitted with blinkers.

But hey, it was nice to see that “The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry”, even if one gets all of the Nürnberg and the Munich cliques pulling on the same string. That’s the problem with those intricate webs of deception and collusion, you pull the wrong strand and the whole web untangles. A little birdie told me that another strand is getting detached and wrapped. :lol: :lol:

These are interesting times!

“So it goes” Kurt Vonnegut

John Joseph Sauer said:
The trademarks were never in dispute- It's distribution rights that are in question. One thing seems obvious- Kingsbridge/Marklin doesn't seem to be able to make money with the trademarks they fought so hard to usurp!
Marvin,

You’re talking through your hat, as usual! On all counts!

Actually so far there has only been a consolidated statement of results, no breakdown as to the different companies (Märklin, Trix, LGB), but I’m sure your privy to those results, right? Talking through your hat, as usual!

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
John Joseph Sauer said:
The trademarks were never in dispute- It's distribution rights that are in question. One thing seems obvious- Kingsbridge/Marklin doesn't seem to be able to make money with the trademarks they fought so hard to usurp!
Marvin,

You’re talking through your hat, as usual! On all counts!

Actually so far there has only been a consolidated statement of results, no breakdown as to the different companies (Märklin, Trix, LGB), but I’m sure your privy to those results, right? Talking through your hat, as usual!


Companies that are in the black don’t usually discuss the possibility of cutting wages.

Jack Barton said:
THEY are saying: “We are well within projections and everything is normal.”

Hmmm, we heard that once before…from yet another “Bob” ®?

(http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif)

John Joseph Sauer said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
John Joseph Sauer said:
The trademarks were never in dispute- It's distribution rights that are in question. One thing seems obvious- Kingsbridge/Marklin doesn't seem to be able to make money with the trademarks they fought so hard to usurp!
Marvin,

You’re talking through your hat, as usual! On all counts!

Actually so far there has only been a consolidated statement of results, no breakdown as to the different companies (Märklin, Trix, LGB), but I’m sure your privy to those results, right? Talking through your hat, as usual!


Companies that are in the black don’t usually discuss the possibility of cutting wages.

People who follow what’s going in the industry know that Märklin had been operating in the red for years prior to Kingsbridge taking over, people who know what they’re talking about realize that turning that around will take at least two years if the economy runs well, longer if it’s sub-par.
What I know from German friends, acquaintances and reading more than just the local paper, things are pretty spotty. Emphasis is placed on life’s necessities and as far as I know hobbies are far down on that list; ergo, it will take just a bit more to get Märklin to break even or make a profit.
But you know all that, don’t you!? :wink: :slight_smile: :wink:

PS The News hardly ever makes it to the Cartoons Page!