“Which way do I run ?” Well usually in the opposite; away from the “Revenuers”…I’m usually running from them or anything that looks at all like WOR*K.
OH.....you mean something to do with railroading.....hmmmm.....I gues I run on track, and from one point to another; delivering loads, and returning empties. Almost like picking up the bheer at the bheer store and returning the empties. We still do that here in Canada.Hi,
it took me a few weeks to find out, what you are talking about. “Which way do your run?” What a funny question.
I run my trains via RC. So I spent my time to run after them, to load, to uncouple etc. Sometimes the trains head this way, sometimes the other. That´s why I build a turntable and a turning triangle. Do you overseas-folks still run your trains in circles?
If I read these pages I sometimes ask myself, when or if you run model trains at all. The nitty-gritty-nasty stuff definitly fills more pages of this forum, than modelling or stories about the fun you might have, playing with your trains. Some of you even fill the pages of other forums (fora) elsewhere. There can´t be time left run trains in circles or to have fun with trains. I just noticed, one of the blokes here just rendered his 2.000th mailing in a single (rather new) German forum last week. Nobody cared. So he wrote almost another 100 within a single week. No time to model or play. If nothing train related comes to mind, the bloke sends the weatherforcast.
Foratrashing seem to be a hobby of some people. Probably cheaper than to ask for professional help. But most clinics today have acces to the internet.
So, whenever I read “Which way do you run”, I look for the next tree. Just in case.
Have Fun
Juergen Zirner
Juergen ,
I tend to sympathise with you somewhat over the puzzle caused by “which way do you run?” . The mysteries of the English language are quite complex , as you have found .
One of the other mysteries you mention is the seeming lack of time to run trains .
Well , some people have the good fortune to have access to computers at work and post from there .
Others less fortunate do not have a railway to run , they are variously building one , designing one , or saving up the money to start . So to keep their interest going , thay come to talk to like- minded people , and to gather ideas for their future layout .
I am in - between layouts right now , having been forced to give up one at ground level because of inability to bend down to reach it . So I am working on a new one at waist height . No doubt when something sensible emerges , I shall post pictures .
Which brings us to why you do not see many pictures of models —many people do not know how to post them . I have had to have considerable help to be able to do it myself . I got all that help from this site .
So , all things considered , this is not an unusual site , it does a lot of things that other sites do .
However , this site has the big advantage of letting people speak their minds , it has no “elite” section of modellers , and is in general very friendly, also very patient .
You , unfortunately , have rather tried the patience of some on the site , not deliberately I think , but simply because you translate your German straight into English .
Now , having lived in both countries , I recognise that their are some big differences between what is considered “etiquette” of speaking our two languages . I think that as this is an English language forum , you may find it to your advantage to learn a little about this very awkward part of speaking any foreign language . If you need any help , I would gladly offer . I hope that others would extend the same courtesy .
Best of luck , keep trying .
Mike
Whichever way I set the engine down on the track
Mike Morgan said:
Juergen , I tend to sympathise with you somewhat over the puzzle caused by "which way do you run?" . The mysteries of the English language are quite complex , as you have found .Mike
Don´t talk rubbish. In every language of this world a hammer is a hammer and a pint is a pint.
You jugde a man by his deeds and not by his talking. At least this is the attitude I grew up in various countries of this great world.
Only the internet gives some pretenders a chance to live their virtual live of dreams. A few years ago, these folks would have gotten locked away. They do not need the real stuff any longer. They can sit on their asses and tell the rest of the world, how it is supposed to be and have to move not a single inch. They have the majority, so they are right.
And these Zeros terrorize the rest of the world. They tell young people where they have to die to become heroes in a toytrainforum , while they are sitting on their sofas, watching TV . Carry on…And these idiots try to tell you at the same time, how to play with your trains.
This is supposed to be a train model forum. Not many trains around. Mainly loosers, who try tell the rest of world which way to run. I hope you feel safe. You send your young people out into the world to protect your toy trains. Don´t forget to bury one or the other in the middle of your layout.
Have Fun
Juergen Zirner
Zirner said:
...... Not many trains around. Mainly loosers, who try tell the rest of world which way to run. I hope you feel safe. You send your young people out into the world to protect your toy trains. Don´t forget to bury one or the other in the middle of your layout.Have Fun
Juergen Zirner
Egads, guys…it’s only a hobby.
Why do you guys always end up throwing arrows and bits of disitergrating junk at each other.
I’m guilty of talking about a lot of things on threads in these forums, as are a vast majority of others, but always, I hope; with a tonge in cheek, or more often in a way of trying to express humour (I often fail miserably).
I do “Operate” a model railway, and have a web page to show what is going on. I do try to do a bit of modelling in order to improve the operating conditions of the equipment and physical plant. I’m not claiming to be a great modeller, but struggle through in order to keep things running.
This site, and all it’s various forums; allows me to “Cabitts” with a great bunch of people, even the ones who seem to antagonize, as their main event in life.
When some strike out at others in a cruel and crude manner; it hurts. I wonder what sense of satifaction they get from it.
I usually just step away and say nothing, hoping that things cool off. Which they usually do after a gentle prod with a sledge hammer by our patient host, Bobby. (Gosh he sure puts up with more than I would. I would have ripped a hole in the computers of a few of you, but then that’s why he has a successful web site and I only benefit from it, as we all do.)
Let’s all stop; leave this thread to die a natural death; and start to think how fortunate we all are to have the feedoms to speak, as we have.
Let’s all enjoy a bit of humour, a bit of respect for ourselves, and each other; in spite of our many differences; even if only for the month of December. We should all remember that December is usually the month of fellowship and giving.
Could we extend that “Giving”, to the giving, or showing of respect to each other, and the showing of tolerance, when any of us makes a bit of a mistake in judgement.
I hope you guys can take as much time to read this bit of HOPE from me, as you do in trying to find fault in what others write in their contributions to these threads.
I hope you all have a very happy and healthy month of December, along with a very Merry Chritmas.
My present to you all, is the hope of a gift of a big dose of humour, under your Chritmas tree.
Since, in the last two months, I have completely reworked all but 30 ft of my 60x25 layout, double tracking what was single tracked, using concrete and/or HDPE ladder roadbed, added sidings, created a curving grade-inclined formed concrete tunnel, helped host a community Garden Train Tour [640 signed guests before the log filled] at my layout, and provide/run trains at the Botanical Gardens Luminaries benefit display each Friday and Saturday night during the Holidays, I dare say that I spend as much or[maybe] much more time with this hobby than you do at present. I have tried to contribute threads to this forum which posed technical questions and suggestions, often supported by photographs.
All I have seen you contribute is sniping comments of little relevance to whatever the subject at hand. What threads [recently or ever] have you innitiated to help share technical information or encouragement to those of us who are [ignorant simpletons?] not privy to an encyclopedia of [self believed or otherwise] knowledge about every subject [including word choice]? It appears to me that your biggest efforts are directed towards seeing if you can derail threads into Flaming wars.
There are many here that readily share knowledge and helpful experiences. To those members, I thank them for their contributions - Hopefully they recognize themselves. In fact, I first came to this forum because I respected the expertise of one member here that I had first met on another forum.
Although I don’t need to justify to you, Mr. Zirner, — for others, this thread was started after finishing my double loop project. Up to that point, I had always run CW so the steepest grades would be downhill. One day, I realized that there was no longer a reason for me to run only one direction. I also realized that most of the layouts I had visited ran CW. Was this a coincidence, or was there a reason? I thought it might be fun to explore the rational of others in our hobby, no matter what type of layout they have, as to “Which way do you run?”. The title of the thread was deliberately chosen to be open ended and non-exclusive. I’m sorry your translations didn’t pick up that nuance.
'Nuf said to Zirner - Ever!
Jim Carter
LTC. USAR, Retired
…so I see so far there is one person who didn’t take the time to read my message…Mr. Carter was the first…I woder who is next…
It looks like there is little hope…no-one gets the point…even a person who advertises his “Great” past experience in his signature.
Congratulations, Zirner, you’re the first person in the 6+ year history of the board to get under my skin enough to lose access to his account. If you want to start acting like an adult again, let me know, and Ill reinstate your account. If all you can do is attack people’s modeling, belittle everyone, and the complain about the site in general, you can go back under the rock you came from.
Its been suggested that you WANT this to happen, so you can wear it like a badge of honor. Well, the badge says “Zirner behaves like a spoiled child”, and you’re welcome to it.
Fred.
I did read your post. I put the signature line [first and last time] in my post because of the first quote from Mr. Zirner. He had no business [IMHO] inserting that type inflamatory comment into this thread.
…and…Why, just because you suggested it, should someone who wishes to share the way they run their RR, not post their experience? As I wrote, the thread was initiated for fun [and humor] concerning “how we do things,” with there being no right or wrong way stated.
Finally, I sincerely thank you for your Holiday well wishes, and would add my wishes for Happy Holidays and a Merry Christmas to all.
JimC. [my usual signiture]
Fred Mills said:
Egads, guys......it's only a hobby. Why do you guys always end up throwing arrows and bits of disiterating junk at each other.…
I hope you all have a very happy and healthy month of December, along with a very Merry Chritmas.My present to you all, is the hope of a gift of a big dose of humour, under your Chritmas tree.
It would appear to me - but I could be wrong - that if one doesn’t understand a question, then one could e.g. wait what types of answers appear, keep reading those answers 'til one understands the question.
Not a problem unless one has a large chip on one’s shoulder, but that’s the way it goes. Mix that with a lack of humour and BINGO! We have another wiener errrrrrrrrr I mean winner!
But getting back to the CW or CCW - actually if running in circles/ovals/loops I like to be standing inside the circle. At least then the gaps between the cars look tolerable when going around the curves, there’s nothing that indicates “tight curve” clearer than standing outside the curve.
PS Oooops I’m way behind the ball here, decided to have supper, read some stuff and then complete the post. Ah well, that’s the way it goes at times. 
Well Bob…I KNOW that I speak for several other regulars here who feel we are much better off without That kinda garbage. We’ve always treated LSC as kinda our local pub…everyones welcome…but its still ours…We may respect your views…adn your right to have them, just don’t try to force them on us…Does it matter if anyone is building a model ? NO! Does it matter if someone has a huge operating layout or a simple loop in the garden? NO! Anyone care to say that I’M not much of a modeler? I seriously doubt it…We come together as a community of like minded individuals…trains and railroading is just one of many interests that we all seem to have in common, and as such, we don;t feel inclined to limit ourselves to one aspect.
I persoanlly had enough of Zirner sniping at others, and particularly YOU and LSC! To me its like insulting my favorite cousin adnmy hometown all in one go…and really, I think he managed to take a shot at EVERYONE in 2 posts! What’d we ever do to to deserve his scorn? We have had in the past and currentlyhave English-As-A-Second-Languge folks…so I don’t buy it as an excuse…he was asked, then told politely to please stop…
So it was time for him to be seen to the door…I wish him well…but I still gotta wonder what the INFATUATION was with HJ? IS he in LOVE with him or WHAT??? The only time I’ve ever seen behavior similer is in Elementary school crushes…
Warren
Fred , you are right , but I am reminded of a poem that I sort of know the start of --------------------------------
The next time you’re feelng important , the next time your ego’s in bloom ,
the next time you feel that your leaving would upset everyone in the room ,
Take a bucket , and fill it with water ,
put your hand in it up to the wrist
take it out and the hole that’s remaining
is the measure of how you’ll be missed …
Perhaps some erudite soul knows the full, correct version and will type it out for us all to put at the side of our keyboards , except that is , for those who know they don’t need it .
Mike,
That was always one of my Grandfathers greatest quotes. He used it often. But I never heard it in poem form or that it was a poem. Interesting.
Ric Golding said:Ric,
Mike, That was always one of my Grandfathers greatest quotes. He used it often. But I never heard it in poem form or that it was a poem. Interesting.
Yes, that is interesting.
The way I see it - apart from semantics - no hole left, just smallish waves, depending on the size of the hand that left the water. 
One such occasion was March 20, 2005, left hardly a ripple!
“One such occasion was March 20, 2005, left hardly a ripple!”
Okay, I’ll play the straight man. Why is this significant?
Birth?
Death?
Retirement?
Marriage?
Divorce?
The day you started your railroad?
Ric Golding said:
"One such occasion was March 20, 2005, left hardly a ripple!"Okay, I’ll play the straight man. Why is this significant?
Birth?
Death?
Retirement?
Marriage?
Divorce?
The day you started your railroad?
It was the day “someone” left a forum with hardly a ripple. 
BTW if there was hardly a ripple, it was hardly “significant”.
But back to running in circles…despite not being a packrat or a collector, this year I couldn’r resist buying the “President’s Choice” HO-Starter set. Comes with a honking big SantaFé type 2-10-2, five ore cars (all in CN livery or an approximation thereof) and a “PC” caboose.
Included is an oval of nickelsilver track, a controller which is fed by a wall-wart. All the wheels are RP25 contoured… and believe it or not the set is made in Europe (Slovenia) rather than China.
All this for the equivalent of US$100 (taxes incl.)
So now I have a set of CN stuff to run in circles. With all the snow we have, it is time for Indoor running.
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:Yup. I'm trying to resist the siren song of that latest PC set, but I'll probably give right in to the temptation, as in past years. It's a marvellous looking loco. Last year's 4-8-4 set is still on half-price sale at our local Loblaws: I picked it up back when they brought it down to $49.99. Either way, a complete set for less than the regular price of an IHC loco is nice :D
But back to running in circles.............despite not being a packrat or a collector, this year I couldn'r resist buying the "President's Choice" HO-Starter set. Comes with a honking big SantaFé type 2-10-2, five ore cars (all in CN livery or an approximation thereof) and a "PC" caboose. Included is an oval of nickelsilver track, a controller which is fed by a wall-wart. All the wheels are RP25 contoured..... and believe it or not the set is made in Europe (Slovenia) rather than China. All this for the equivalent of US$100 (taxes incl.) So now I have a set of CN stuff to run in circles. With all the snow we have, it is time for Indoor running.