Large Scale Central

What's in a road number?

The last few days I’ve spent a lot of time just trying to rationalize engine and car numbers. I mean, just about every piece of stock on every railroad has one. And generally, in real life, the number not only identifies the car/locomotive itself - but to those who have the key, the type and size as well…

I knew this, I’ve probably known it since I was about 10. I just never really bothered to think about it much when assigning numbers to stuff on my layout (beyond the low numbers were locomotives)… I mostly just dug out two decals that matched and slapped them on.

The result was predictable. Everything had a number. It even looked pretty good at a glance. But they meant nothing.

Now, I don’t count rivets. But I do generally like things at least summat plausible. I was going to just stick a 2x number on the RPO under construction when I looked over at the milk car with it’s 6xx number and thought, “Hmmmmmmmmm”.

The following is the best I could come up with - considering the hodgepodge I already had, and general unwillingness (or laziness) to renumber more stuff than I have to. If those of you into prototypical operation could give me pointers to improve it, I’d appreciate it.

Steam Locomotives:
#1-6 Narrow Gauge Switchers
#7,8 Narrow Gauge ‘Special’ or Mixed Traffic Engines
#9-12 Narrow Gauge Passenger Locomotives
#14-19 Narrow Gauge Freight Engines
Note 1: Prior to 1874 locomotives were identified only by name

#60-68 Standard Gauge Switchers
#80-95 Standard Gauge Freight Engines
Note 2: SG numbering only formally adopted in 1947. Prior to this, the number of the unit it replaced, or the next available one were given
Note 3: There are no SG passenger locomotives - as the AV was narrow gauge, and later dual gauge during the entirety of passenger operations.

Diesel Locomotives:

40-45 Narrow Gauge Switchers

#46-49 Standard Gauge Switchers
#50-59 Standard Gauge Road units

Rolling Stock:
#21-29 Narrow Gauge Passenger Equipment
#31-35 Narrow Gauge Baggage and Postal Cars
#71-79 Narrow Gauge Passenger Equipped Freight Cars
See note 2 above.

#100-129 Narrow Gauge Tank Cars
#130-137 Narrow Gauge Flatcars
#140-175 Narrow Gauge Boxcars
#240-249 Narrow Gauge Caboose
#301-345 Narrow Gauge Gondolas
#401-499 Narrow Gauge Hoppers

#501-545 Standard Gauge Hoppers
#551-559 Standard Gauge Flatcars
#561-579 Standard Gauge Tank Cars
#601-645 Standard Gauge Boxcar
#650-659 Standard Gauge Caboose

An X prefix: Special equipment - well cars, water cars, snow removal, fire fighting, cranes, etc.

X01-X30 Narrow Gauge

#X41-X55 Standard Gauge

An ‘M’ prefix: Added to any number is to designate that a car has been turned over to MoW service. The old general number may then be re-issued to another car if needed. For instance RPO #33 would become tool car #M33 or wreck crane #MX01

A ‘B’ prefix: Added to any number indicates the car has been assigned to in-house Business or Operating Department use. For instance inspection truck #B3, or the business car “Kimberly” would be listed in the files as #B21

Does any of this make any sense at all? Suggestions?

Interesting I never really thought about what was behind the numbers. I know the group I meet with number their stuff for operations but I dont think they have any specific reason to a number other then its just a number to identify the car being picked up or dropped off. I never bothered with numbering my cars mainly because I like that very simple look, but now you got me thinking.

An interesting post Mik. One thing that I have noticed in the bigger 1:1 railroads is that when locos are purchased by another, usually smaller road, the running numbers are not always changed. I have noticed this more with steam locos than diesels.

Looks sensible to me.

Mik,
You got my gears moving a bit. I’ll have to go take stock of my inventory and see how the numbers come out. From there I might consider re-organizing them like you’ve shown. I just took the cars as they were due to my hesitation in modifying anything. It was just get the cars on the track and pull them all over the place. Now I’ve got some scratch building under the belt, I’m going to reconsider and maybe give myself another project to do :-).

Matt

It seems to me that equipment was assigned a number and then they stuck to it for that style of equipment. I don’t think it matters, because it was different railroad to railroad, but consistancy seems very prototypical.

As a general rule, steam engine numbers weren’t changed when being passed on due to the complication of having a new number plate on the front cast. This is exemplified by the story re C&O614. Mothballed at the end of steam, there was a great coal-rush just before the end. In addition to reactivating their own serviceable engines, Chesapeake & Ohio also borrowed units from the RF&P. Included was a 4-8-4 #614. In order to make room for RFP 614, they literally chiseled the “4” into a “1” making the unit the C&O 611. For a diesel, simply repaint, change out the numberboards and record the old # on the blue card.

As my Freedom Central’s parent corp. also owns several other roads, I have various number schemes to deal with. However, I’ve tried to select road engines I want to use to follow the following number scheme:

FCR 1: TCC FCR 1 is the hyrail dodge dakota quad-cab for the CEO
2-1999: All heritage locomotives. Originally a hodgepodge collection of any steam the road could get operational for freight service. Heritage units carry ARAX initials now.
1000-1999: 4-(4-4)-2+(C+C) - ACE-3000-9 (DASH-9 Variant) 3rd Generation freight unit.
2000-2999: 2-(2-2-2)-4+(C+C) - ACE-5000-US 3.5 Generation Freight Unit
4000-4499 B-B+B-B - Drawbar’ed twin GP-40-TGX EcoSlug sets - Hydrogen-burning Road-Switcher units
4500-4599 C-C+C-C - Drawbar’ed twin SD-40-TGX EcoSlug sets - Hydrogen-burning Helper sets
8000-8199 B-B - MP-18-H2 - Rebuilt MP-15’s using hydrogen-burning 2,200hp primemovers. Equipped with EcoSlug & Remote technology
8200-8499 B-B - GP-38-H2 - Rebuilt GP-38-3’s using hydrogen-burning 3,800hp primemovers Equipped with EcoSlug technology
8500-8999 (B-B)+(C-C) - GP-70-TGX + SD-70TGX - EcoSlug Road Units
9000-9999 (C-C)+(C-C)+(c-c) Liquid hydrogen burning gas turbines powering nine AC traction motors in an A+B+fuel-tender lashup - Road Freight Units

20000-29999 - Executive Varnish: Executive Corporate Passenger Cars - Office Car Special (OCS)
30000-31999 - Hoppers: 165ton coal buckets purchased for fuel service. Now used in unit coal trains for powerplants
33000-34999 - Hoppers: Rebuilt 70ton hoppers for 100ton aggregate service
35000-36999 - Hoppers: Centerflow Covered hoppers: 3-bay
37000-38999 - Hoppers: Centerflow Covered hoppers: 4-bay
40000-40999 - Boxcars: 40-foot, heavy-service. (For products that normal “load-out” before “weighing-out”.)
42000-42999 - Boxcars: 50-foot general service fleet
44000-45999 - Boxcars: 53-foot plug-door general service
46000-46999 - Boxcars: 60-foot Cushion-Underframe general service
48000-49999 - Boxcars: Mixed-Classes of Mechanical Refrigerator Cars
50000-50999 - Tankcars: Antique 10,000g tanks. Fully HAZMAT certified & FRA crash-spec compliant rebuilds
51000-51999 - Tankcars: “Beer-Can”, HAZMAT Certified
52000-52999 - Tankcars: “Beer-Can” Food Service
53000-53999 - Tankcars: 42-foot Modern Tanks, TIH/PIH
54000-54999 - Tankcars: 42-foot Modern Tanks, General Service
55000-55999 - Tankcars: 42-foot, 36,000gal. Water-Service (forward-looking freight contracts for H2O-cracking plants)
56000-56999 - Tankcars: 50-foot Non-pressurized
57000-57999 - Tankcars: 50-foot Ethanol Unit trains
59000-59999 - Tankcars: Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) tank cars
60000-69999 - UNUSED
70000-79999 - Flat cars: Flats & Bulkhead fleet - Various classes in number range
80000-89999 - Intermodal: Flat, double-stack wells, general service articulated spines & RoadRailers
90000-99999 - Non-Revenue: Snow plows, jets & blowers, cranes, MoW equipment: tie-inserters, tampers, ballast regulators, etc

Initials used by the Freedom Central Corporation (FCCorp.US):
ARA - Arcade & Attica Railroad - The railroad portions of the excursion services. Used on select cars shipped nationally for advertising
ARAX - A&A Steam Excursion Services - SES operates the fleet of heritage steam engines as well as the “Core” tourist operations.
BEA - Buffalo & East Aurora - Commuter Operations between Buffalo & Olean using gas-turbine-electric rebuild RDCs
EBT - East Broad Top - You know what this is!
FCR - Freedom Central - Mainline Freight Operations
GAP - Gallitzin, Allegheny & Portage - Steam excursion Services in Conjunction with Railroaders’ Memorial Museum
MIDH - Middletown & Hershey - Terminal Switching Services
MSV - Morrisville Road - Terminal Switching Services
RWR - Roanoke Western Railway - Coal Feeder branch

  • I THINK I thought of everything to share. EcoSlug™, GoldSpike™ & MUv2™ are several technologies I’ve developed for my road since it operates in 2032. EcoSlug™ uses computer control to throttle up ONE primemover at a time, using it to produce power for all units in a consist, and bringing additional engines online as needed.