Large Scale Central

What is that idiot building now? Flour City tractor

Every once in a while the topic of the lack of ‘suitably’ sized detail items comes up. Or the lack of detail and/or selection on those that are… Just to prove it could be done, I’m building a farm tractor. With stock shapes, and as few castings as possible. The prototype I picked was the Kinnard ‘Flour City’ manufactured mostly unchanged from 1909-1927. I find it visually interesting (cluttered), while still simple (once you break it down into steps…). Plus, from new to derelict to restored, it could be found during the period(s) most of us model. I chose to build the 40-70 (40hp drawbar, 70hp on the belt) version mostly because, well it’s huge. And it could stand in for a 30-50 on a 1:20 layout with no changes, should I decide to sell one.

First step, rear wheels… 4" pvc drain pipe for the rims, a 7/8" wood spool for the hub, 64 1-27/32" wood spokes, and a pair of $4 nylon r/c helo rotor gears…

laying out the spokes, kind of tedious, especially when you bump ONE and have to reset them half way around

I found it easiest to set the spokes, smear glue on the hub face, and carefully lower it down the pin. This will work to build wagon wheels for you 1870’s guys too…

I decided it would be easier to paint the inside part now. I’m using a paler shade of green than the prototype to simulate sun faded paint.

Rims and bull gears, yes the style is wrong, the 6 spoke ones were $12.99

2nd row of spokes, bull gear installed, and an almost finished wheel. I need to add some track nail “rivets” where the spokes are attached to the hub, and a bit of coffee stirrer for the butt joint where the ends of the boilerplate rims were joined. As much as I dig those Y-shaped cast cleats, the jury is still out on actually modeling them.

Cool project!

Today’s project, aka ‘I wuz FRAMED!’

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Plastruct I beam and angle sideframes… remember to make them mirror image, lol.

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Front bolster. I used the corner off a broken plexiglas price number from work, a coffee stirrer, and a bit of balsa. Styrene or even thin plywood would work, and probably cut easier. (Hint, use the corner itself to form the diagonals, saves a LOT of layout time and cutting!). I fixed the drunk looking bits after the glue got tacky enough that they’d stay put…

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More progress, the engine support crossmembers were from a set of junky ‘o-scale’ Lionel castings that I found at the hobby shop for $3.50… (It also has pallets, crates and ‘spike kegs’ that are quite usable in “G”)

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Coffee stirrer platform and hitch bracket. A smokejack from the Lionel castings for the front pedestal, and a first coat of paint… It’s starting to look like SOMETHING, I think…

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Mik,
What an undertaking!
I would prolly buy one already made from Mamod or someone. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

John, Ain’t NOBODY (to my knowledge) made a commercial model of this thing. This whole idea came about because of a thread on another board with guys griping that most of the commercially made tractors were too big (1;16) or too small (1:32)… So I picked a relatively simple (as in no custom castings. or lathe work) design, – and also one that decals could be made without having some corporate lawyer knock on my door looking for a ‘donation’… If you break it into steps, it ain’ hard at all. I did the frame as far as the third pic at work, between customers, in about 3 hours. And my high tech wheel jig makes laying the spokes less of a PITA than I expected. (adding guides for alignment made from coffee stirrers or some such would make it even easier…)

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BTW that shadowbox/ornament washboard will be the radiator… right size, right shape

Buildin the injun! The oil pan… too lazy to cut reliefs in the crossmembers, so I fit balsa between them. A little putty and paint should hide the worst of it.

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The block-

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Mik,
Great pictures! Very inspiring and a great example of how things really are simple to make from common items, if you can just take the time to break it down into small projects. I don’t know why, but because some people want to do it that way, and more power to them, we all get drawn into the idea that if your building a tractor, the cyclinders need to work and the magneto needs to send spark to the plugs. That’s really not the idea for a lot of us, we just want a good representation of a static model. Mik, you sure are building a good one.

Pretty neat. It sure helps to have a great scrapbox!

Bruce Chandler said:
It sure helps to have a great scrapbox!

Actually, the hobby shop with Lionel stuff and plastruct is 2 miles away, Michael’s is 3/4 mile the other way, and the lighters came from K-Mart… going 40 miles one way just for gears was a bit annoying, tho. I haven’t really used anything out of the scrapbox, yet. The front axle is simply square stock with 2 wood toy wheel pegs, some bits of channel, and a washer.

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More progress, it just LOOKS complicated. I never claimed to be an expert modeller – this is why you check BEFORE you glue. I didn’t notice that the compensating gear was on the wrong side until I went on to the next step. A 10 second fix, but documented for posterity…

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Primary drive, front view. The gearbox is two wood furniture plugs, the clutch drums wood wheels. the throwout bearings a small spool cut in half…

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Left side showing the gear train. Yes the first pinion IS out of line. That’s where it is supposed to be for doing belt work.

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Right side

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Camshaft installed… 4 spools, an Ozark gear and some tubing. I also shortened the cylinders and made them fatter by plating the flats with .030 styrene

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Manifold

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Mik, do you have drawings for this tractor or are you just using photos for your plan.

Gordon Birrell

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

Gordon Birrell said:
Mik, do you have drawings for this tractor or are you just using photos for your plan.

Gordon Birrell


Plans? I have about 50 pictures, and some catalog cuts to work from.

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Mik,
I cannot comment on your work as I don’t know it, but I truly find it pretty cool! I have been into William’s Grove for a show now and then as it’s to close not too.
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further progress…

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David, I haven’t been to Williams Grove in about 10 years. OTOH, I haven’t MISSED a Rough and Tumble August show in about the last 10 years either. Kim has been discussing Tuckahoe in Maryland, and Rollag in Minnesota this year (IF she hits the lotto, I think)

Looking good.
Great job of improvising.
It looks like a tractor and you have not spent a pile of cash.
Ralph

That’s really looking great so far, Mik!