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Well , perhaps I am not so thick after all

I have just spent some time farting around trying to get photos where I want them . You know , right from scratch . Assume stoopid .
I was so stoopid I checked the internet , just typed in "posting photos "
42,100,000 replies . If only half are stoopid , I am not alone .
And guess what ?
There was this common thread saying , “first of all you need somewhere to host them . When you have this proceed as follows …”
A lot of people have tried to help , I even have been sent a programme to compress the pics . I lost sevearal pics into the magic maw of the microcosm in there .Gone .Forever .
I wonder why people try to deliberately wreck computers with viruses . I wreck mine without any help at all .
So , does anyone know where I can get a "start from scratch " guide to posting photos
Mike M

Mike,

  1. You need a place to host them.

  2. depending on the host you can laod your pictures with or without using a FTP program (File Transfer Protocol), a good (in my opinion) FTP program is WS-FTP.

Then you prep your pictures.

  1. Improve your pictures as necessary i.e. lighten, brighten, sharpen, colour correct etc. etc.

  2. Resize your pictures to 600pixels wide, that way they’ll fit on most monitors/resolutions that are being used today.

  3. Reduce the size of your picture file - Mikes.jpg - to approx. 50Kb

  4. Upload the picture to your host

  5. Insert the correct URL in your post here. The correct URL will include the http location of the host i.e. http://www.mysuperhost.com .
    It will include the section where your pictures are hosted ie. MikeMpictures (http://www.mysuperhost.com/MikeMpictures/
    It will also include any directories and subdirectories you may create i.e. LSC or BTO or whatever (http://www.mysuperhost.com/MikeMpictures/LSC/
    and last it will include the filename of the picture ie. mike_LGB-MTS01.jpg (http://www.mysuperhost.com/MikeMpictures/mike_LGB-MTS01.jp_g)

You will (if you’re smart) use underscore “_” instead of the spacebar to make the dirs and filenames readable. If you get enough spaces -they read as “%20” on the Internet- some browers will balk and not display the pictures.

Naturally all of this will also depend on

a) your host - I’m a believer in getting a host that serves up pictures pronto, where you can create and re-create dirs and sub-dirs as you wish. That doesn’t have a bandwidth limit - some picture services will not display your picture if it is called up too many times within a certain time period.

b) the software you’re using for picture manipulation and uploading

Hope that helps

PS the “…” before “mike_LGB-MTS01.jp_g” should be a “/” the “.jp_g” is of course “.jpg”

Mike,
You can upload them right here. You have a “Freight Shed”. Right?
jb

Hans, very succinct, thanks. One question that always has me stumped and has cause me no end of misery: How does one reduce the size of the photo to 50Kb? Images of cyber-sissors come to mind.

One question about hosting them here. Who owns the copywright? Me or Bob?

Steve

John ,
Yes , you are right , but I am afraid you have missed the point .
When you gave me all that advice on posting --which I did successfully you will remember ,after your patient coaching --I had a different computer . Now , don’t ask why , but this -THIS computer is not coming up with the same responses . Why ? Don’t try to answer , we will never know .
Timmy tried very hard to coach me in something else , but could not believe the results I got --NOTE --not "would not " but "could not " . He still does not believe that every time I switch the computer on , it says "BT Broadband DIAL UP " even though it is Broadband and therefore not dialup . It’s there in black and white staring me in the face every time I log on , DIALUP . It even says " dial " in the prompt box .(what’s a prompt box ? I just invented that ) I think we are all victims of some plot . The interesting thing is discussing this with other sufferers . They say " well , how else would you know which number to connect to ? " and they are right .
This is why I say please , assume stoopid . Obviously , certain terms have come to mean different things to different people .
I shall try to follow any advice given , I am really grateful to those who try-- please believe that , I really am .
Just an example , the other day I sent John some photos with the plea "please put on site " .He did so . I now cannot repeat what I did to get the photos to him in the first place . I have noticed how unforgiving a computer is , ONE ERROR , a slip of the finger , and you really have to start again . It does not recognise " whooops! " So I am obviously at fault , I accept this . But , when you have no concrete written guide , you have no idea where you went wrong–or right . And it seems that 42,100,000 people agree .
Watch this space . The one between my ears .
Mike M

Steve, Getting the pictures to the 50 Kb works like this: When you save a picture (final save!) you can select the compression. At least that’s the term used in Adobe Photoshop Elements, COREL PhotoPaint and Jasc Paint Shop Pro. Adobe uses 1-12 gradations, Corel and Jasc use 1-99. In Corel PhotoPaint the dialog box looks like this:

When in doubt I always use “Save as” to make sure the file ends up where I want it. You can add a copyright notice to any of your pictures :wink: then the question doesn’t arise and if someone “liberates” some of your pictures they would have to erase your copyright notice first. That is not all that easy if you position the notice in the right place. :wink: :slight_smile: The more colour variations and textures that are below the copyright notice, the trickier it gets to replace/clone “things” pixel by pixel to leave no trace.

Hope that helps For those who wonder: the picture is of a big engine on a short train.

Mike M,

The cardinal rule on a computer is “GIGO” which translates as “Garbage In =(equals) Garbage Out”!

Press the wrong key, wrong button, select the wrong choice on the drop down list etc. etc. the result will not be as expected.

The only recommendation I have for people who “run into problems”, write the routine down step by step and refer back to the cheat sheet when you need to.
SWMBO in this house has minor skirmishes with the 'puter on a regular basis. I show/tell her twice, third time she must write it down or I won’t even tell her the routine. :wink: :slight_smile:

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
The cardinal rule on a computer is "GIGO" which translates as "Garbage In =(equals) Garbage Out"!
But the real problem with computers is when it translates to "Garbage In = Gospel Out" - an all too frequent occurence...
Bruce Chandler said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
The cardinal rule on a computer is "GIGO" which translates as "Garbage In =(equals) Garbage Out"!
But the real problem with computers is when it translates to "Garbage In = Gospel Out" - an all too frequent occurence...
Bruce, ;)

On that we have to consult Fr. Fred!

I have no idea how that could happen, unless one has a special 'puter which has a “Holy Water” buffer, “Saintly Spirit” translator or some such, through which everything must pass. :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol:

Would be interesting to see/hear how that affects numerical input/output or if there’s a special key combination that cancels the “HWSS” filtering. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:

HJ,
It happens all the time in big business…managers start believing all the reports just because they are generated by computers. Never mind that the data they are based on is worthless.

…must be time to retire…

HJ ,
You hit the nail right on the head .
Now , you tell me where there are written instructions on loading ,posting —you know what I mean , there are none . We just hope that someone , somewhere will tell us .
Let’s ask the question–
Where did you all learn how to operate your computer ?
Nobody , but nobody , has ever sat down with me at a computer and said
"This is how it is done "
What I have learned so far has been trial and error , mainly error .
Let me just remind you of one little slip up that someone made on this very forum
"LGB have a cheek selling MTS then expecting people to pay to learn how to use it "
Not verbatim , but nearly .
Aha !
Mike M

yeah… and when is all said and done… you still be pretty thicke… mikal… :wink:

Mike Morgan said:
HJ ,

Where did you all learn how to operate your computer ?
Nobody , but nobody , has ever sat down with me at a computer and said
"This is how it is done "


Mike,

Back in early 1992 I went for an “Introduction to PC” course, all DOS, no Windows. Didn’t have 'puter, yet. In Sept '92 I bought a 'puter from an acquaintance, 486 with all kinds of goodies good for programming - he was into software development and changed the platform. It was the 'puter from hell - intermittent problems with the motherboard and memory. It went back to whence it came got a new motherbord and memory (this was after Christmas '92) and worked after that.
Sept through Christmas '92 taught me: If you want to get a handle on things you better be your own man and learn, learn, learn. I attended two more class room courses a) intro to CAD/CAM (quit after the first session and got my money refunded - no way was I going to put up with 2 or 3 people sharing a 'puter because the school board couldn’t afford to fix their equipment!) b) Basic DTP (DeskTopPublishing) that was OK, but not all that interesting.

I learn from books, manuals, Internet groups, talking to people etc. etc. And asking lots of questions. :wink: Our 'puters only go back to the supplier (local) while they’re under warranty, all else happens in House.

Mike Morgan said:
Let me just remind you of one little slip up that someone made on this very forum "LGB have a cheek selling MTS then expecting people to pay to learn how to use it " Not verbatim , but nearly . Aha ! Mike M
Of course they have a lot of nerve. ;) :) That system is/was being advertised/promoted as if it was "child's play", "plug and play", "put it together, plug it in and run" etc. etc. etc. Then what happened? Are the kids much smarter than the adults who bought LGB-MTS?? TOC is absolutely right when he says: "What good is a hobby if you're not prepared to learn?" (I'm paraphrasing, too lazy to look up the exact quote!). Precisely, sometimes one has to pay (cold hard cash) for the learning experience and other times one pays by putting in the extra time and effort to learn "whatever".

Well , Mo-reese , I take that compliment kindly , sir . You’re a very perceptive genumn an’ scholar ,I thank you .
Mike M
I don’t even know how to wink . WINK ! Gawd you filthy lot . :>)

The other comments from HJ were pencilled in whilst I was digesting the great recognition Maurice afforded me .
So , what’s to say ? LGB wrong , computer salesmen wrong .LGB right , computer salesmen still wrong . My computer cost more than MTS , my MTS came with a genuine course in how to run it --from the people who sold it .
The rogues who run the computing world are laughing all the way to Bill Gates’ Bank . I wonder when people will realise there will be something to replace computers , and they will be out on a limb . Couldn’t happen ? You may live to be surprised .
You saw it here first .
MM

Mike Morgan said:
The rogues who run the computing world are laughing all the way to Bill Gates’ Bank . I wonder when people will realise there will be something to replace computers , and they will be out on a limb . Couldn’t happen ? You may live to be surprised . You saw it here first . MM

Mike, Yes, they are! And never louder than when they read that some “poor user” has a devil of a time to make things work after he pluncked down his hard earned money. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Of course there are lots of people who - while waiting for the world to end or something really revolutionary to happen - just get on with doing on a 'puter what they want and need to do on a 'puter. Glitches or no glitches.

Like I do .
Bedtime .
Mike M

Hans, Thanks for the short course on picture smashing.

I’ve never had a computer course, either. I’ve just sat down with the books and said I wonder what this does…

Steve

I still reckon computer manuals are like help files.

Designed and written by someone for someone who already knows what they are doing.

Anything I am able to do on this thing is thanks to two people who spent the time to teach me and patiently wait whilst I wrote down my own click by click instructions.
I guess computers have been designed by mathematicians rather than exponents of language.
I hate em. But I have to have one.

I’m getting a bit long in the tooth for some of the challenges I face understanding what to do.

I’d much rather play around with practical things like R/C stuff and see what that can do for you.

I look at it this way… It is just a machine. Machines I understand… eventually.

I was most fortunate to have started when there was the Apple 2C no hard drive and next to nothing for memory. Floppies was where it was at. Choice of amber or amber for the monitor.

Now my hard drive is shot and my memory is shorter?

Oh ya ! My computer has a ton of memory and too many gigs on the hard drive far more than I ever could use and then there are the other goodies. My my I am just barely able to keep up with all the new technology to come out.

Hey what happened to the 78 records, reel to reel, 8 tracks, Sony beta and a bunch more of those things I learned to amuse myself ? Not counting the wife tho. She always tells me where it’s at.