Large Scale Central

Water Drainage on the Bluestone Southern

General Discussion
#21

Dan Padova said:

Fortunately, from one of your photos it appears that the houses, full scale ones, are built on a slightly higher grade. But it also looks like the farm fields are at a higher level than your property. May I ask where the water goes once it has run through your property? Without knowing the full property layout of yours and your neighbors, I cannot give an educated guess as to what should have been done by the builder to prevent this kind of runoff from the farm fields.

I don’t want to alarm you but the runoff is from a farm and there could be issues with just what is running off.

Dan, it all runs eastery… The property all drains to the east, and eventually runs into a stream, which goes to a river…

#22

I love it, model train, real world engineering.

It looks like a little more finessing might be required, just my opinions in these observations OK, but it looks like at the head of your spillway all the water has found the natural low spot the be on the one corner nearest your big trestle. I would be very worried about water like this:

…eventually undermining the trestle bents where its finding it way onto and over the side walls of the channel. Maybe another row of those big blocks should be placed along the base of the trestle where you currently have the row of river rocks, and then add a couple more on the top of side wall to where the cinder blocks holding up the main span are and then back that area up with extra gravel. The idea being to direct all that water flow over to where it will flow more directly over the spillway and not get so dangerously close to you RRs infrastructure.

Just my opinions mind you, only seeing what I see as a potential issue I want to bring to your attention. If you ever get a real “Gulley Washer” where 3-4 inches falls in an hour, that bridge area (IMO) might get swept out by the water overflow.

All this is just suggestions.

#23

Sean McGillicuddy said:

I was looking for a new home!:wink:

PS His name is Aquaman !

I’m sorry Sean, but Aquaman swims in his own poo…

…think about it, he does.

:wink:

#24

Andy,

Those pictures are very educational , my question: how much debris is left behind once the water recedes?

Back in 1999 when we went house hunting in the Okanagan one of the top items on the list was: “must have excellent drainage with no possibility of flooding.” That was a residue from my former life and so far so good even in torrential rains (the “100 year” kinds).

#25

Vic Smith said: I’m sorry Sean, but Aquaman swims in his own poo…

That would explain the facial expression !

#26

Wow. I know when I was there last saturday, you were showing me how high the water was, but dang! That’s crazy!!

#27

We had cloudy and rainy weather through out the for 5 to 7 days before the Thursday before the Ops. None of it was really a long term gulley washer, but as Andy said the water flow was the result of an inch in less than an hour, after many days of saturation. The Sun finally came out on the Thursday, before Saturday’s Ops. After seeing these pictures over the weekend, I was amazed that Andy was able to cut the grass on that hillside on Friday morning. Other than a couple of quicksand spots in the construction areas of the railroad, it was mostly dry by afternoon on Friday and all was dry by Noon Saturday and hard by Noon Sunday. The streams did continue to drain below the rocks in the area draining the woods on the tree line. Saturday they were combining the crops on the other sides of the tree, which is actually in the next County.

#28

You sure have done a great job with run-off control, Andy… Some of the images look like the run-offs Phoenix has had in the past month…

So glad you were able to have a great session… Thumbs upThumbs upThumbs upThumbs upThumbs up

Would have loved to be able to make it… One day maybe…

#29

Stan, you need to commit to the Fall session next year!

#30

Bruce Chandler said:

Stan, you need to commit to the Fall session next year!

Yes…the Invasion of Southern Illinois…:wink:

#31

Vic, If you re-read the first entry, I do believe I said, that this showed what needed to be reworked… Even listed the 2 sreps to be accomplisfed…

thanks for your input, tho… It is appreciated…

HJ, actually, they is no debris left behind, cept for a few twigs… All the runoff over the spillway is coming from the neighbor to the west, and the crop fields to the north and northwest… Only real debris is from the woods, and that mostly drains down in from of the retaining wall of Evansville/Memphis…

#32

Ken Brunt said:

Bruce Chandler said:

Stan, you need to commit to the Fall session next year!

Yes…the Invasion of Southern Illinois…:wink:

Down here, it would probably be thought more of as a Revival, small Family Reunion (teeth optional) or a Hoedown. I brought some squeezin’s, but it never left the trailer.

#33

I tol y’all I heard a banjo. I’m sure I saw Burt and Ned, too.