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Vinyl or waterslide lettering?

Sorry to keep bothering you guys. I now find myself with 2 locomotives that have no proper lettering on the tender. I have a C&S #22 and it has a train of freights, so I plan to letter the other 2 locomotives the same way. [They are my B’mann 2-6-0 and an Accucraft 4-4-0 electric that just arrived.]

Waterslide decals would work. Microscale has them in HO so I emailed them to ask if they could up-size them to G scale. I found several other decal vendors by searching MLS and here. I even got a reply from Adlion Print, who I had not contacted! (Anyone know who they are?)

And then it occurred to me that vinyl lettering would work fine on a flat tender - which doesn’t even have any plank gaps. I could even buy my own cutter, or order some from one of the decal guys. They all seem to offer both. Buying a cutter will make the lettering a bit expensive.

Can I ask for opinions? The lettering goes on flat tender sides so I imagine vinyl will work as well as waterslide decals.
Any opinions about the various vendors?

Pete I have done this exact process both ways. Getting white decals is the first hurdle but seems you have covered that.

I printed these decals on an Inkjet using Tester’s brand decal paper. The entire oval is the decal. I had mixed results. The film is thin and the sheets are photo sized which caused some sizing issues on the final product. In general I just don’t recommend it. It did lay down over the rivets well but it was finicky.

I have also used the stuff from Micromart. It works much better and is standard paper size. The decals are one to one when printing your graphics. I make mine up in Power Point and print them as slides not Jpegs. It tracks through the printer easily and lays down well. I used it on the triple dome project.


I have also used the reverse mask with vinyl lettering. The background is sprayed the desired color and then the body color, Peel off and do a little touch up. Bam you are in business.

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Same process with the pickle and tank car projects.



I used Times New Roman because I could buy sheets of letters at Hobby Lobby. If you Cricket your own or have them made you can get any Font you want same as decals.

The Vinyl mask bleeds under and needs touched up. Be prepared to do a little brush work if you go that route.

I do like the paint better. It doesn’t silver or curl. It is extremely durable and not subject to fading. You get the exact color you are painting with. It does not shrink as some decals can do after a year or so.
You can also do aggressive weathering technique like this one done with sand paper.

I have printed both Inkjet and color laserjet. The inkjet graphics can run if not sealed before soaking them. Cold water, no soap and don’t let them soak. Get them wet and then pull them out (still on the paper) on a clean ceramic tile. Keep wet with a few drops of water. Test them every few seconds until they move, then get them on the model. Push out the extra water with new clean sable paint brush and get off of it. Blot don’t wipe. The film is going to get sticky and you don’t want to be touching it when it softens. I highly recommend the Micro-Sol system over Walthers Solveset. Solveset is a “hot” formula designed for commercial decals printed with paint.

If you go the decal route make sure you give a first coat of clear high gloss. After you are done you can hit it with Dull Coat to knock the sheen off.

Now if you really want to know what I think I can give you my opinion on the various brands of water based acrylic paints.

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Vinyl cutter machines are something the average person gets and barely (if ever) uses so they can be had for a fraction of the cost on FB marketplace, yard sales etc. The Cricut Explore Air 2 (what I have) is frequently seen locally for an asking price of $70. They would likely take $50. my 2 cents

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Being in the sign business where I could get cut vinyl for free, all of my locos and cars are lettered with vinyl. It will lay down over rivets or into siding breaks with some work and a soft pencil eraser. There is a limit as to how small it can be. In that regard, water slide is best.

DIY will likely involve a learning curve, especially weeding out the letters. The smaller, or more complex, the tougher to weed.

As for a vendor, Del at G Scale Graphics would be my reccommendation.

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For the most part i use my Silhouette studio vinyl cutter to make spray masks. i find i can get smaller height cuts. down to about 1/4 in. the letters when weeded out go in the trash. the only fun part is getting the small bits to transfer think inside of B,P,R etc. most of the time these bits get final positioning by eye on the model.

Al P.

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I get mine from Del as well. But they are quite difficult to peel, depending on the font and seriffs (sp?)
I should have chose a different font. The pointys wouldn’t release from the sticky nor the thin parts of
the letters and numbers.

I used to use water slides from Stan Cederleaf exsclusively until his passing.

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G-Scale Graphics. We do custom vinyl lettering. Just tell us what you need and we would be glad to give you a quote.

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Stan had the knowledge and was great to work with , very sad he is gone :frowning:

I’m not as critical as some of forum members and I certainly have spelling issues. I use a Brother P-Touch.

The gold print on black works well on a black tender as well as the white on black. The unit also has frame choices you can print around the letters. Different fonts and sizes too.

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Interesting. I was given one of them last Christmas/birthday by my son’s anal partner who labels everything and thought I should, too!

I use one at work on the line equipment controls. They are weather resistant. Need a clean surface, I use Windex. Staples has the cartages, gold on black is a special order. Buy Brother P-touch, aftermarket not as good.

We’ve used a cheap Cricut brand cutter, both to make masks and “stickers.” Pretty much all of our rebuilds have letters made this way. It doesn’t cut small things well, so I’ve not tried it for lettring on our rebuilt train cars. We’ve not used it as much as I thought, but I’d call it a worthwhile investment.

Eric