“Global Climate Change” has been around as long as the World has been around. Here we have about 2 inches of snow remaining, and we had the coldest December in decades (or on record, I forget). This week it will stay below freezing with another snow storm predicted for tonight.
The U.S. finished last year without any hurricanes for the first time on record (again I forget, but it was unusual).
So can anyone tell me what the temperature of the Earth is supposed to be?
Terry, you don’t even want to know about our weather. It was mid 60s today and 40 was our low last night!
Hark back around twenty years or so and it was hard to find a doctor who would categorically, in the public domain, put a link between smoking and lung cancer. These days the sceptics are hiding their tails and coughing their cancerous lungs out, assuming they are still breathing. Who were the big bad guys then keeping the medicos quiet?
Today, who are the biggest poluters (non-alternative energy and the production industry) and exactly who employs the lobbyists to keep us all in the dark, these days? I am sure all those sceptics of the past, who smoked, would be wishing the lobbyists were not so powerful.
Australia has been ‘suffering’ under elevated continuous temperatures, with 2009 the second highest daily average temperate recorded to date (since record taking was commenced). Global change is upon us with record highs, record lows and record flooding and droughts. It is not simply the physical impact of global change on the earth, but the moral/economic impact and social changes that will result. Refugee numbers will skyrocket and war will be inevitable, as dispossessed people seek dry land under their feet and those unable to cultivate their land seek food.
David Hill said:
"Global Climate Change" has been around as long as the World has been around. Here we have about 2 inches of snow remaining, and we had the coldest December in decades (or on record, I forget). This week it will stay below freezing with another snow storm predicted for tonight.The U.S. finished last year without any hurricanes for the first time on record (again I forget, but it was unusual).
So can anyone tell me what the temperature of the Earth is supposed to be?
Victor Smith said:
Depends what eon and how many dinosaurs just farted
That is certainly a poor way to address the many old timers who hang out here! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: -Brian
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Single digits the past two days, negative temps at night with 3" of new white stuff. Supposed to warm up tomorrow into the 20s, then 40s for the next week or so. Heat wave!!!
Later,
K
Tim Brien said:
Hark back around twenty years or so and it was hard to find a doctor who would categorically, in the public domain, put a link between smoking and lung cancer. These days the sceptics are hiding their tails and coughing their cancerous lungs out, assuming they are still breathing. Who were the big bad guys then keeping the medicos quiet?Today, who are the biggest poluters (non-alternative energy and the production industry) and exactly who employs the lobbyists to keep us all in the dark, these days? I am sure all those sceptics of the past, who smoked, would be wishing the lobbyists were not so powerful.
Australia has been ‘suffering’ under elevated continuous temperatures, with 2009 the second highest daily average temperate recorded to date (since record taking was commenced). Global change is upon us with record highs, record lows and record flooding and droughts. It is not simply the physical impact of global change on the earth, but the moral/economic impact and social changes that will result. Refugee numbers will skyrocket and war will be inevitable, as dispossessed people seek dry land under their feet and those unable to cultivate their land seek food.
Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get. If you don’t like the weather, just wait a few minutes, it will change. Attributed to Mark Twain
Maybe if we stepped way, way back and looked at the BIG picture we might come to some different conclusions. Since humans were turned loose on the planet with their big brains and opposing thumbs we’ve developed ever dirtier technologies with each new generation. And we’ve managed to breed and multiply exponentially to the point that we’re now not too far from exhausting our food supply. But, if mankind’s existence on earth is part of the natural evolutionary cycle (Oops, I hope that hasn’t offended anyone) then what we do to the earth is all part of the process, the big picture, it’s meant to be.
There are millions of flat-earth types out there whose world-view is based on assumptions similar to those above. They can’t seem to equate that if a tablespoon of dirty motor oil can pollute an entire pond then dumping millions of tons of soot and various gases daily into the air is bound to have a negative effect on the atmosphere. And I agree with Vic, it’s probably more correct to call the results of this pollution, Weather Change rather than Global Warming.
I take it from some of the above comments that a lot of you are happy to pay the taxes generated by this supposed phenomenom .
It started as “a hole in the ozone layer” That didn’t really frighten enough sheep into agreeing , so it became
"global warming " This took off fairly well , but then it began to show suspect origins for the so called facts .
And it wasn’t getting very warm , either .
Quandary , let’s really think hard about this idea and give it a woolly title where smug buggers can say without fear of contraception "prove we’re wrong " .
Then we can tax anything to do with it , make useless wind farms which only generate profits for all involved ,
make the oil last longer so the oil producers have us by the balls for longer (think about that one . Which countries stand to gain more global power by eking out their stranglehold? And I do not mean The USA , Canada and the western producers )
And so it came to pass that a New Religion was formed by the great god gore.
And there was much wailing in the lands of the have nots for they could not pollute the planet like the big boys.
So a getting together was ordained by the believers ,they chose a place called Copenagen . And lo , they chose the coldest winter for thirty years .
And it came to pass that , after generating more polluting gasses getting there and back that the have nots
generate in a year , there was much disagreement .
Not about whether warming is taking place , but how much to pay the have nots for keeping their traps shut.
And more taxes were raised by paying the havenots (a new tribe ) a thing called OFFSETS . This made the havenots exceeding happy and they all went back to their tribal lands to work out which Swiss banks to stow their newly gained wealth in .
But the OFFSETS did diddly squat to reduce foul emissions .
And there followed an even colder weather event whereby brass monkeys were emasculated .
And the councils were heard to utter "we weren’t prepared for cold , we were told it would be hot , so made no arrangements for giving combat to the soon to be extinct thing called winter "
And the politicians did larf loud on their way to ye bankers houses . Some went by polluting jets because they knew that they had once again made fools of the people and were not really polluting any more than a minor volcano .
And the people did wear sackcloth and pour ashes on their heads for they were sore afraid of not earning enough to pay their taxes
And the New God laughed .
For is it not writ that the masses are there to give succour to those in High Places ?
Yea , even though it be brought about by artifice .
I’ve decided to get into the carbon credit business. I will sell you one carbon credit for $1000.00 USD. In return, I will plant one tree in my back yard. It may be the same tree that I planted for the other guy, but that doesn’t really matter, does it, because we are only trying to “feel good,” results do not matter.
If algore can do it, why can’t I get in on the scam? :lol:
Steve ,
Thou art but a common infidel and taxpayer .
Thou shalt not covet another man’s perquisites ,for is it not writ that only the algores shall benefit from
this base calumny ?
Ken ,
Thou taketh the pith
I think the average world temperature should be warm enough so I do not have to shovel show anymore in Pennsylvania, and can harvest sweet corn, green beans and peas all year round. Golfing in January and February would be nice too.
Maybe south of the Equator it is different, but here the angle of the Sun, solar activity and water vapor seems to affect the temperature throughout the day more than my petrol powered lawn tractor.
David Hill said:I think all golf courses should be converted to garden railroads :D Ralph
Golfing in January and February would be nice too.
Careful, folks…
Brian Donovan said:
Victor Smith said:
Depends what eon and how many dinosaurs just fartedThat is certainly a poor way to address the many old timers who hang out here! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: -Brian
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Bob McCown said:The great one has spoken and does not sound happy. The earth is going to freeze over now. I blame all of you LOL :-)
Careful, folks...
For the last 61 years the coldest weather in the St. Louis Area has been between Christmas and New Years. This Year the marina froze on Saturday and the Lake closed over on Sunday (1/3/10). That may be a little later than normal, but earlier than some years. All this has little to do with extreme low temps but more with calm winds. Predicted to be minus 2 degrees tonight. Scientist are baffled, but still looking for free grant money.
They certainly are baffled , Ric . I just saw a commercial on TV offering the privelege of adopting a Polar Bear.
Now would that be to buy him a fridge ? Or could I bring him home to London where the temperature is -8 deg?
Anyway , it begs the question , what does the bear receive-a useless adoption certificate ?
Or does the money go to the greenies to mend their boat ? No , it can’t possibly be the latter 'cos their boat is wood , and they don’t chop trees down any more , they hug them .
So what’s the money for then ?
I think it’s for the algore retirement fund .
I’d rather save fallen wimmin , enough of them are falling on the ice outside . I arranged it quite well . You know , "ooo dear , come in and have a cup of tea and a bit of comforting "
Gotta go, there’s another .
OK guys, message from TGWN. Very little snow here in the valley, “direct” result of buying a snow blower. 
If this is what it takes, I’d say buy one! It keeps the snow at bay - one way or the other - and it keeps the economy going. :lol:
Oh BTW, here in the Okanagan Valley the global warming factor is most noticeable in the summer. Very good for slimming down while working on the GRR i.e moving tons of material and laying track will do that. Looking at pictures from the various GRR events, that wouldn’t be a bad idea for some.
