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Turntable

Hello all. This is my first post on here, so lets see if it works OK. My name is Brian Davies. I haven’t done much model building at all for a long time until recently. As an early teenager I worked at Depot G Hobbies in Illinois before the shop closed (if anyone who remembers me is out there, email me and say hi). After that i’ve done most of my work on railroads in one to one scale. Recently I was looking for a fun project to make in 1:20 scale. I decided it would be fun to make a turntable that could be used as a display for a locomotive. The result, hopefully, is pictured here. I think the results were very much worth the effort. It came out so well that I put one up for sale in the classifieds, and Ill make more if theres a demand for them (that was not meant to be an advertisement, and I hope it was ok to write that in this forum). The model represents a somewhat simplified copy of the East Broad Top’s turntable. It is made of styrene, with over 1,000 embossed rivets (thats approximate, I dont have the patience to count them all). The rail is spiked to wood ties, and it sits on a Lazy Susan bearing so it can rotate. Ive never seen anyone make a locomotive display like this, but I really like it and want to make another one or two of different styles for myself to display equipment on. If there is any interest in how I built it I can put a few additional pictures on here. Thanks for looking!

Welcome Brian
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Great Looking turntable… Welcome to LSC…

Welcome aboard Brian. Nice build, of course we want pics, and more pics and no we don’t want your first born

Dave

Brian,
Yes your posting worked and I recognized your turntable model as being from Orbisonia before you even said it. Excellant model and a great idea for displaying an engine or other rolling stock. I remember “Depot G Hobbies” but never visited there, just the advertisements. Welcome aboard.

Thank you all for your warm welcome I appreciate it. Ill try to show some pictures of how I built the turntable. The pictures aren’t great, and I may have resized them a bit small, but I can’t go back and unbuild it to retake the pictures so this is what I have! The turntable was built out of 2mm styrene sheet. I bought a 2 foot by 4 foot sheet, and had some left over when I was done. First I cut the sides out, then I made the top, which is a rectangle the same length as the sides, and 1/2 inch wider than the distance between the sides when assembled. I glued the sides to the top, leaving an overhang of 1/4 inch on each side of the top, making sure that the sides were square with the top. Then, I glued in 8 braces. These are the full width of the turntable and are glued to the sides and top, but are only 1 3/8" in height.

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Once all of this dried, I cut another rectangle of styrene, the length of the turntable and the same width as the inside distance between the walls. With the turntable still upside down, this piece was glued to the top of the braces, and the walls of the turntable, basically turning it into a rectangular box with internal braces. This made the 2mm thick styrene, which is quite flexible, very rigid, yet still light. I then glued in more braces of the same style, these reach to the bottom of the sides, and are in approximately the position that the bracing would have been on the real turntable. The real table was braced with riveted angle iron and plates, not flat sheets of metal. I put details on these braces to approximate the prototype. I’ll explain this more later. Finally, once these braces dried, I glued a 5/8" wide strip of 2mm styrene along the bottom of each of the sides, keeping an overhang of 1/4 inch on the outside.

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The brace detailing on the sides of the table are made up of 1/4", 3/16" and 5/32" styrene angle. The 1/4" angle is glued at the top and bottom of the sides (that is the reason for the 1/4" overhang I mentioned earlier. The other styrene angle pieces, along with some .5mm strips in places, make up the vertical braces. The Orbisonia turntable has some interesting rivet detail and bracing at the center of the table, to help hang the table on the center bearing. I replicated this with pieces of .5mm styrene and Many embossed rivets. All of the angle work is embossed with rivets too, well over 1,000. These were embossed on a jig I made to use on a sewing machine. I rounded the end of a sewing machine needle and inserted it into the machine. A piece of styrene with a dimple in it is used under the piece being embossed, to make the shape of the rivet. Basically, the styrene die is taped to the sewing machine table. The piece to be embossed is placed on this, and the sewing machine needle is pressed into it. The results are really nice and very much worth the time involved. It actually goes pretty quickly once you get the hang of it.

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Under the table, the internal bracing was simulated with 1/8" styrene angle, and .5mm sheet. These were also embossed with rivets where appropriate.

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The turntable sits on a 3" lazy susan bearing attached to a piece of stained and polyurethaned wood. The bearing is screwed to a box made of styrene that snugly fits between the two center braces on the turntable. This allows the table to be lifted off the base very easily. If I wanted to I could attach the turntable to a layout by screwing the bearing down to the layout, and fitting the turntable over it.

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The turntable was painted red, however part of the top was painted black. The prototype has an open top, and the black paint, when the ties and planks are installed, gives an open effect to the top.

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The ties and planking were cut, and stained. The ties were epoxied on, and the rails were spiked down to them. I used Llagas Creek code 250 nickel silver rail. I soldered a wire onto each rail, and inserted them through drilled holes through the turntable, hiding them inside the box that the bearing is bolted to. That way if I ever put it on a layout, I can easily power the rails. The rails were secured to the table with spikes inserted into pre-drilled pilot holes.

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The planks were secured to the ties with epoxy. I cut the planks from stripwood, at mostly 20 foot scale lengths. Then I staggered the joints at the end of the planks, and cut smaller pieces to fit where necessary.

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The poles used to push the table were made 9/32" tubing, 3/8" square tubing, and .5mm styrene sheet. Epoxy filled in the hole at the end of the tubing, forming a rounded end. The other end of the pole was cut at a 30 degree angle. The triangular box the pole is inserted into is made of 3/8" square tubing, cut at a 30 degree angle, in such a way that all that remains is the top and both sides, the bottom is cut off. It’s easier to cut than it is to explain. The pole is glued into the box, and the box is filled in with epoxy for rigidity. Then a base of .5mm styrene is glued onto the bottom. After it is painted, this piece is epoxied to the planks on the turntable. Thats about it, and my hands are tired from typing all of this in one shot. Maybe this will help someone else build one of their own. Its really quite easy, just keep everything square, and have fun with it.

Nice build with great detail. And thanks for the pics they are always appreciated

Good job, Brian. Great looking turntable…

Welcome aboard! Nice turntable, and thanks for posting the build pics.

When embossing the rivets on the angle braces, did you have any trouble with it distorting the angles? I tried doing that once and the angles would get all warped.

Dude

Brian,

Bruce Chandler created a turntable modeled after the EBT Orbisonia/Rock Hill prototype. He created a Builder’s plate that would work on your’s, also. You might want to get together with him on how he did this. Your detail of construction is well worth putting in the Article’s portion of this site.

Hehe. Mine wasn’t even close to the detail Brian has done. Mine is only very loosely based on the EBT. Well done, Brian. I made my builder’s plate on my Brother P-Touch.

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Wow. It’s hard to believe it’s almost been 3 years since I made this.

Nice work!

Wow I meant to respond to you guys a while ago, sometimes life seems to get in the way!

Thank you all for your compliments it means alot. I know I will be making another one sooner or later. Rick thank you, I could take better pictures of my next build and post an article if there is an interest.

Ray, I didn’t have any problems with warpage. I think it may in part be because the rivets were embossed close to the center of the angle pieces being done, and the pieces werent that long. The flat pieces I did were pretty thin and I think that too helped. I really cant wait to buy one of those riveters Ive seen people use!

Bruce’s turntable is great, and was an inspiration for me to make my own. Thanks Bruce!!

Again I apologise for taking so long to respond, and thanks again all!

Excellent work Brian.

Jon.