He didn’t take these parts when I offered them…
Then this came in the mail the other day…
So I gathered up some more parts…
And sent an email to the guy on fleabay…
And here’s where we’re headed…
This is the prototype locomotive’s history, as far as I could piece together: From the CPRR Discussion Group: "What we know (or think we know) is as follows. Briefly, Vulcan produced three 2-2-0 locomotives to Charles W. Stevens designs. The first was delivered to the San Francisco & Oakland RR. The other two were subsequently delivered as kits to the San Francisco & Alameda shops and assembled by Andrew J. Stevens (younger brother of C. W.). By the mid 1860s both the SF&O and the SF&A were under common ownership of Alfred Cohen, with A. J. Stevens as Master Mechanic, and later General Manager. By the end of the 1860s Cohen was in the process of selling his lines to the owners of the Central Pacific, and was acquiring larger 4-4-0 locos (both home built and from Schenectady). Two of the three Vulcan 2-2-0s were sold – we suspect the two SF&A engines. The remaining one (we think the SF&O engine) remained as the Oakland switcher and was scrapped by the SP in the early 1870s (although there is one source suggesting this scrapped engine might have actually been a steam car originally from the Market Street RR).
Anyway, one of the sold 2-2-0s went to the Los Angeles and San Pedro as the “San Gabriel”. The other was sold to the San Rafael & San Quintin. "
John H White Jr. lists the build date as 1864 (in his book on American built Singles), and I read somewhere but can’t find it (probably on the CPRR Group page), that the drivers on these were about 60" with 9x18 cylinders. Allegedly it was too light for the SF&A, so the LA&SP got it in 1868 and used it to build the line - I haven’t found any reference to exactly when it was scrapped.
It looks more like a cartoon of itself than a cartoon would.
Donald Duck is at the throttle. :lol:
Don’t HAVE Donald Duck. Might be able to do Mickey or Pooh
I decided to butcher a c-16 frame today, just to see if it would work. I think it actually looks OK. And I should be able to mount the motor inside it.
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Thats a neat looking engine. I think you should put Steve at the throttle.
Mik the Mad Genius.
Shawn said:If'n that is me you are referring to, be it know that I will not fit, even with my legs cut off. :P
Thats a neat looking engine. I think you should put Steve at the throttle.
Well, even if Steve won’t fit, here’s a bit of progress… The motor is in, but I wish I’d had a flywheel…
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My rail historian buddy in Cali suggested gold AND creme striping with the 2-tone green. Sometimes I really hate it when he’s right!
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This is what it looks like tonight… I still need to put the gold points at the tips of the sunburst on the wheels, build valve rockers and wire the motor… after that I need to wait for some spare cash for the Kalamazoo boiler and cab. I tried a test fit c-16 boiler parts… entirely too fat!
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I even started on a backstory… tho I’m not real sure about it yet. What do you all think?
http://www.the-ashpit.com/mik/shamrock.html
Mik said:I think it'll fly. Probably have been more things in life decided by poker games than we want to know! ;)
What do you all think?
Mik said:And he indeed was right :)
My rail historian buddy in Cali suggested gold AND creme striping with the 2-tone green. Sometimes I really hate it when he's right!
Thanks, Ken! Yes, the “CP Huntington” is a single. She’s a Danforth-Cooke from 1863. Union in Mass. made a single as well The Cumberland Valley’s “Pioneer”, still survives in the Smithsonian collection.
I’m waiting for the boiler. I should start back on this sometime next week. When it is done, I may even send it out to Pasadena to visit Vic’s layout.
Well some parts arrived yesterday, so I just HAD to play with this for a bit. The front half of the boiler is Kalamazoo 0-4-0, the back half Delton c-16. I decided that the summat cartoon-y oversize steamdome was simply a must, and I had a Bug Mauler one here, so…
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And with a little paint… Yes, I’m backdating the cab with a pointed roof from a Kalamazoo 4-4-0…
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I think I have most of the parts to finish, but I still need a bell.
Mik said:
Thanks, Ken! Yes, the "CP Huntington" is a single. She's a Danforth-Cooke from 1863. Union in Mass. made a single as well The Cumberland Valley's "Pioneer", still survives in the Smithsonian collection.I’m waiting for the boiler. I should start back on this sometime next week. When it is done, I may even send it out to Pasadena to visit Vic’s layout.
Hummm…I thought it looked like Seth Wilmarth stuff.
The Pioneer is actually still crated up in Allentown and the B&O Museum is supposed to be getting her they way I understand it?
OK Rooster, you caught my mistake. Pioneer had a sister that was rebuilt as a steam car
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More than you ever wanted to know about it… including drawings if somebody wants a project http://www.gutenberg.org/files/28160/28160-h/28160-h.htm
Already have it Mik…I actually have the book it was originally printed in and signed by the author.
BTW Rooster I checked my notes Seth Wilmarth was the proprietor of Union Works in South Boston, so either is accurate
Mik said:Yes ...I know ;)
BTW Rooster I checked my notes Seth Wilmarth was the proprietor of Union Works in South Boston, so either is accurate