TonyWalsham said:
Thank you Ralph.Apology accepted.
You Welcome, Tony.
Ralph
You Welcome, Tony.
Ralph
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TonyWalsham said:
See. I could control you all the way from downunder. ;) :)Just a joke. No offence.
No offence taken.
Technicaly you were correct.
I believe Bill Clinton felt he was also technicaly correct when he said " I did not have sexual relations with that women."
Just a joke 
Ralph
Ralph Berg said:
TonyWalsham said:
Show me where I have made any comment in this thread about domestic USA politics.Sounds like a politician ducking the issue to me. The entire thread is about a bill being introduced in the USA that is considered by some to be usurping the rights of the states. “Gun control” in the United States. How can any comment on this thread not be construed as being about domestic USA politics? Ralph
Ralph, Gun control is a global problem, it is just much more pronounced in some countries than it is in others. Look at the “poor Swiss hunters” who already have the NRA almost praying for them that this initiative may fail. Now that is what I call solidarity.
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OTOH I’m not sure the Swiss shooting fraternity appreciates the support, the shooting culture in CH is just a smidgen different from the one in the USA. There is a lot of head shaking going on and puzzlement expressed when the “finer nuances” of the US shooting “culture” are being discussed. Don’t ask me if that is from sheer ignorance or if it just is “too strange”. Oh BTW I did mention in another thread that the Swiss (still) have a militia army, didn’t I?
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Ralph,Gun control is a global problem, it is just much more pronounced in some countries than it is in others.
Look at the “poor Swiss hunters” who already have the NRA almost praying for them that this initiative may fail. Now that is what I call solidarity.
I didn’t jump on the NRA bandwagon regarding the Swiss. If the Swiss wish to ban “pump” shotguns, it is up to the Swiss government and the Swiss people.
I’m not critical of gun laws in other countries. It is their right of self determination.
Ralph
Tim Brien said:The title of the OP is They are after our firearms again. It is Mein Kampf that advocates disarming the citizenry, which you obviously skipped those chapters when YOU read it.David Hill said:Ding-ding. No it is not the gun itself but the dingaling with his finger on the trigger. Dead bodies are also 'tools', as once deceased, they become statistical tools. If the topic of the thread has altered, then it is you who are the 'master of manipulation of threads'. Have you finished your copy of 'Mein Kampf' yet?
.....This isn't about American gun violence, it was about removing guns from law-abiding citizens and not having any statistical decline in violent crime. The gun is a tool, not the problem.
No NRA in Switzerland but their equivalent:
Pro Tell
Gesellschaft für ein freiheitliches Waffenrecht
Société pour un droit libéral sur les armes
Società per un diritto liberale sulle armi
Sitz/Siège/Sede: CH - 3000 Bern / Berne / Berna
http://www.protell.ch/Aktivbereich/01Homepage/fr/default_f.htm
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TonyWalsham said:
Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic Christian.Does that mean all Christians advocate Euthanasia of undesirables?
Where do you get these phony snippets, Tony? Out of your butt? Proof, proof I want proof.
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TonyWalsham said:
OK.Adolf Hitler was a Christian.
LIAR!
… the young Hitler was strongly influenced, particularly in his racial views, by an abundence of occult works on the mystical superiority of the Germans, like the occult and anti-semitic magazine Ostara, and give credence to the claim of its publisher Lanz von Liebenfels that Hitler visited Liebenfels in 1909 and praised his work
David,
I am not a white supremacist and thus have no need to read the publication (which you obviously have done). It is well known that not only was Adolf a christian, but he raised as a Catholic. The reason he was so tough on those who were not physically perfect, was that maybe he himself, had some physical disabilites, in both his anatomy and his psychological makeup. His own family spent sometime in asylums. Your hero was not at all the supreme commander you may have thought.
From: Jadwiga Biskupska (Cornell University), “Hitler & Triumph of the Will: A Nazi Religion in the Catholic Style” in Undergraduate Quarterly, September/November 2004, page 147 (URL: http://www.undergradquarterly.com/EJournal/2004Q2/Biskupska.pdf):
"Catholicism and Nazism have a more complicated relationship than some might think. Hitler both despised and admired various aspects of the Roman Catholic Church. Though the Nazi movement was superficially areligious, even anti-religious, the Nazi’s greatest piece of propaganda and self-aggrandizement, Leni Riefenstahl’s 1934 film about the Nuremberg Party Rally, Triumph of the Will, is in many ways profoundly religious. The film both makes use of Catholic religious imagery and draws on the Catholic sacramental tradition to give dignity and legitimacy to its construction of Adolf Hitler as the “god” of the Nazi movement… Since the beginning, Catholicism and Nazism had an uncomfortable coexistence. They jarred long before Riefenstahl began filming Hitler’s rally in the summer of 1934… The Concordat, along with many other more famous agreements and treaties signed by the Fuehrer, was quickly violated, and the Church was ineffective in protecting Catholics from all manner of religious and cultural harassment. Alfred Rosenberg, the closest Nazism as an ideology ever came to having a philosopher, was consistently and virulently anti-Catholic… Hitler himself was not purely or simply anti-Catholic or anti-Church, and certainly not so before his rise to power. He was a baptized Catholic, as was his propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, and a number of other prominent members of his administration. Interestingly, though both men rejected their Catholic faith and recognized that they had excommunicated themselves, neither ever formally left the Church and dutifully continued to pay church taxes until their respective deaths. Hitler’s own mother, to whom he was very close, was a devoted Catholic, and Hitler received Catholic schooling during his childhood in Austria… In his extensive, often contradictory writings and “table-talk,” Hitler reveals an ambivalent attitude toward the Catholic Church. As an institution on German soil, he is very much opposed to it, and he ridicules the teachings of Church fathers and the practice of the Catholic faith… he detested the doctrines, of the Roman Church… Institutionalized religion, in Hitler’s view, was a waning phenomenon… "
Quote from above -
“He was a baptized Catholic, as was his propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, and a number of other prominent members of his administration. Interestingly, though both men rejected their Catholic faith and recognized that they had excommunicated themselves, neither ever formally left the Church and dutifully continued to pay church taxes until their respective deaths. Hitler’s own mother, to whom he was very close, was a devoted Catholic, and Hitler received Catholic schooling during his childhood in Austria… In his extensive, often contradictory writings and “table-talk,” Hitler reveals an ambivalent attitude toward the Catholic Church…”
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And Tony, since you live in Australia can I assume you then wrestle crocodiles? You are obviously very stupid or incessantly wanting to pick fights, whether you agree or disagree with me and others. I think that is called a “flamer”.
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David Hill said:David, as an Australian, we do not wrestle crocodiles, but we do take idiots to task. It is a common Australian attribute to not take bullshit from those who are so proficient at it. It is called "Don't come the raw prawn with me". In other words, cut the bullshit! If I was you, I would reread a lot of your postings, as your lack of higher education (or any education level) is readily apparent. Look to your spelling errors, particularly. I do occasionally misspell words, but this is due my excitement in responding to postings like your such eloquent garbage.
And Tony, since you live in Australia can I assume you then wrestle crocodiles? You are obviously very stupid or incessantly wanting to pick fights, whether you agree or disagree with me and others. I think that is called a "flamer".
Tim Brien said:Mr Brien - the word you are seeking so assiduously is 'shite'.
...garbage.
I think we have now seen that Mr Hill has as much interest in this model train site as a lobster has in crochet work. His multitude of off-topic thread start-ups, starting with one on his somewhat odd fundamental religious beliefs that are bound to cause controvers and even ridicule among those of us with a more rational explanation for history, seem to be intended from the onset to be inflammatory, and yet he has the temerity to accuse others of ‘flaming’. I am not against people believing in anything they care to, after all, simply by acknowledging the existence of a ‘supreme being’ we are already admitting that we have belief in the supernatural.
It is the continued, almost desperate need that Mr Hill has shown to need to develop confrontation in every thread to which he has contributed, by first arguing for and then against, and then by positing yet another angle, that of the aggrieved recipient of castigation and vituperation - as a direct result of his own efforts.
Being Jewish, I could not in all honesty be accused of lacking in Christian charity, but I intend to follow one particular aspect of a branch of Christianity that has a lot of appeal to me, that of the Amish.
They elect to shun the undesireables in their midst.
They acknowledge that they are there, but they ignore them.
Let us do the same.
tac
www.ovgrs.orf
Terry,
when one defines that such eloquent word, then several possibilities arise. I will ignore the google reference to Japanese threatre in that the principal character in Noh threatre is called a ‘shite’ and thus will rely on the folowing definition -
shite
noun
(context, Scottish, Northern England, vulgar) shit, trash, rubbish
(context, Scottish, Northern England, pejorative) A foolish or deceitful person.
I feel that both definitions would be appropriate and in context. I do prefer the obviously politically incorrect version though.
back to your same old shit tac, you just can’t help yourself. I’ll bet you drive around looking for car wrecks.