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The TV show Hell on Wheels?

Hell on Wheels on the cable channel AMC. Did I hear this is coming back on? I thought it was on tonight at 10 but didn’t see it listed.

For those that don’t know the show it is about the building of the transcontinental RR and of course the people who fought, loved and died during its construction. The Hell on Wheels title is in reference to the rabble of gamblers, prostitutes and carry ons that followed the men working on the RR and who seperated them from their hard earned pay.

It is a good show.

It will be season 3 when it starts up again. Look for it.

Todd, It was on last night. Two hour premiere. Have not watched it yet . But recoded it. Regards,Ron;)

I tried watching it when it first aired…I rapidly lost interest. Has it improved?

That depends…are you looking for a historical docudrama loaded with facts and historical intrigue, then no…now if you are simply looking fo r a good modern drama set against the backround of western expansion and the construction of the Transcontinental Railroad, then its OK take it for what is…

Yeah, guess I could have been clearer. I recall a slow moving show with little character development or intrigue. No real story. Has it improved from that? Does it make you want to come back each week?

Curious if it’s worth another shot.

Its still fun to watch. We’re about 1/2 way thru season 2 on Netflix.

Both seasons are availible on NETFLIX and they got away from the “Mystery Man that Killed Bohanan’s Wife” pretty quick…I liked it…

It’s one of my three favorites. The other two are Game of Thrones and Boardwalk Empire.

I did miss it Saturday night but found it On Demand and watched it last night. The third season opener didn’t disappoint. What a great show. It did raise a question though.
In the beginning the main character emerged from his makeshift hut after a cold winter to look out at the remains of the burnt down camp and he has a revelation. He chops the locomotive out of the snow bank, starts a fire in it and soon enough he is heading down the track to reclaim his place as boss of the RR construction and to get he work going again.

I know it is a TV show but Question is would that loco be able to start up and work properly? My thoughts are if the loco wasn’t winterised there would be cracked pipes and valves from the freezing ice.
In the real world wouldn’t a loco be drained and winterised if it was to be left unfired for the Winter ?

Todd, if it had water in the boiler and froze up, yes the pressure of the ice would force the boiler plates apart totally destroying the boiler. Thats why in winter locations a fire big enough to keep the boiler from freezing was ALWAYS maintained on any locomotive that could be called on for active duty within a few hours notice. Special crews were assigned specifically to keep the boiler fires lit.

Water freezing in the tender was alway a much bigger problem, there would be a hot steam supply pipe from the boiler running thru the water tank to keep the water from freezing. It didn’t need to be hot, just not freezing, this was also a big reason 20th century locos had water preheaters installed to prevent thermal entropy when cold water was pumped into the boiler.

In 20th century roundhouses locomotives that had there fire dropped but could be called to service would have a hot steam supply line from the round house boiler connected to the locomotive that routed hot steam thru both the boiler and the tender to keep the water warm, Even in warmer climates this was the practice, after all, from cold it could take several hours to raise steam on a big loco, I recall reading a big Northern from cold standing, could take 3 hours to raise usable steam. Keeping the water warm cut that time to about 1 hour.

I like the show, but I have to turn off my railroad mind when i watch it. way to many gaf’s to keep track off, like ever notice how no matter where "end of track’ was, the Swede’s caboose was in the exact same location? (or that it has to trucks…or track anywhere near it ???)

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Yep, gotta turn the railroad brain off. I keep wondering where the ballast is in most scenes.

Some of these ‘Quicky’ RR’s track was laid without ballast to increase the daily mileage of track laying. That is how the transcontinental companies were paid.

Joe is correct, most of the transcon used dirt ballast at first. the notion was that you built it, you built it dirty and cheap and as fast as possible. Later on after the line was finished, other crews would reballast with gravel once it was available (most of it had to be shipped in from either nearby quarries if they could find stone sources, or riverbanks. Not many of either of them on the Great Plains. These crews would also often replace the entire trackage with new ties along with the ballast, and even realigning the right of way to be more efficient.

I read somewhere that the Transcon was actually built twice, the first time to complete it, the second time to make it functionable.

And, in Utah, the two companies building from East and West, built their lines parallel to each other for miles and miles for two reasons:

First, nobody had thought about where the two should meet, and

Second, each mile built was money in their pockets from the gummint

It should be noted here, that the Great Northern was built without a penny of support from the gummint. Perhaps that’s why it never went bankrupt.

Steve that is partly true, it was the road grading crews who met, then continued literally parallel grading ROW right next to each other before Promontory Point was chosen as the “official” meeting place for the approaching rails.

I’ll check it out on Netflix. I can’t handle the 40% commercial load on most of the cable networks. They suck you in by not running commercials for 10 or 15 minutes then there is 4 minutes of commercial for every 5 minutes of content. The worst part of that is they aren’t selling much of that time, it’s almost all self promotion.

Vic Smith said:

Steve that is partly true, it was the road grading crews who met, then continued literally parallel grading ROW right next to each other before Promontory Point was chosen as the “official” meeting place for the approaching rails.

Well, partly true is like being “almost pregnant,” isn’t it. :slight_smile:

Featherkile’s Law of the Complete Truth: Never let the Truth interfere with a Great Story!

“It’s a semi-true story, believe it or not; I made up a few things, and there’s some I forgot. But the life and the telling are both real to me. and they all run together, and turn out to be a semi-true story.” Jimmy Buffett

“Never let the Truth interfere with a Great Story!”

I thought that was WC Fields’ ‘Law of Complete Truth’

“almost pregnant,” ah, I guess its like being “mostly dead” as in Princess Bride

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I stole it, fair and square. I even filed off the serial numbers!

OK - I checked out episode #1 last night on Netflix. Very well made; good acting, great scenery and set in a very interesting period of history even if it’s not very acurate. I’m pretty sure this will get plenty of my TV time this winter.