One point that I find very amusing is the extent to which both John(?) and Jack (his real name) go to defending their position. My old pappy used to say when someone was standing on shaky ground - “He defends himself too much.” It is the guilty party who constantly/repeatedly proclaims his supposed innocence.
The supposed passion shown by both, is not based on the cronyism displayed on manufacturer’s forum, or blind loyalty, but is part of a ‘plot’ (conspiracy theory) dreamed up by someone who had a vested interest, at the time, to discredit any who opposed the way in which a certain company was “handed over with a handshake and a wink and a nod” and the real reason as to why a particular company collapsed. The powers to be at the time thought that everything would work out in the end and the goings on behind the scene would be kept just that - behind the scenes. Alas, all good plans of mice and men came asunder when the fighting fund was found to be short a few Euro and so the plan was scuttled and the rest will be history, once all comes to light.
In so far as John’s apparent failure to grip his useage of his mother language, is this not part of his Walter Mitty persona, creating alter egos to disguise the real JJS (or whoever he is)? A little verbal sparring (a point apparently missed on another major largescale site) actually encourages participants to post and converse with each other. Of course some may resort to name calling, but one must understand that a personal attack, straying away from the main topic, is a measure of the respondents failure to provide a valid argument and would be construed as a resounding defeat.