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The missing link found?

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#21
TonyWalsham said:
David Hill said:
Aha, it's Moe, Larry and Curly ganging up and name calling, which is the usual best effort by those that defend the indefensible.

Unable to carry on an intelligent debate? Can’t find anything on Goggle to confuse the issue? Resort to childish name-calling and attack the messenger. Standard fare for the weak-minded.


David.
If you have something intelligent to say about the subject of this thread, please say it.

It is hardly our fault if the subject matter embarrasses you.

What issue is it that you seem to think we are trying to confuse?

The fact is, that it is now proven Chimpanzees can actually think. An ability that is not solely reserved for humans?
Like humans, that ability to think makes them different from other animals.

What more “proof” do you need to accept that they are the creatures from whom we likely evolved?


Heck… My dog thinks, and from what I have seen, does a much better job of thinking than most of the folks who publish here.

The ability to “think” is not what separates us from all the other animals, it is that we are made in G-d’s image, even Tony.

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#23
TonyWalsham said:
Steve, Your reasoning, if we could call it that, is flawed.

To be made in Gods image would require proof that God exists.
By your own admission that cannot be proven.

Even you agreed that we (mankind) have descended from apes. Even if you didn’t meant to say it. :slight_smile:

As a human being is often defined scientifically as a creature that is capable of rational thought, your firm belief in creationism would lead some eminent humanists to be believe you are not a rational person, and therefore not really human after all.


God is, whether you believe in Him or not. I have faith He exists as do many people past and present. You choose to ignore the evidence of His existence. Have you met the Pope? Maybe he does not exist and is only a Holywood (sic) computer-generated animation.

Your continued ad hominen attacks on those of faith only shows the lack of cogent thought. You are a flat-Earther, and choose to be so in spite of the vast scientific discovery disproving the numerous, ever-changing Theories of Evolution.

God exists, you prove He does not exist, or prove the universe all came from nothing.

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#25

Now you got Tony, and I will believe as you do if you can prove with “incontrovertible scientific evidence” God does not exist.

"Main Entry: faith
Pronunciation:
ˈfāth\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural faiths ˈfāths, sometimes ˈfāthz\
Etymology:
Middle English feith, from Anglo-French feid, fei, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust — more at bide
Date:
13th century

1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one’s promises (2): sincerity of intentions

2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust

3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction ; especially : a system of religious beliefs "

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#27

Double-dog dares are for children, Tony.

#28

Legend has it Jesus was born in Bethlehem which is smack dab in the middle of Arab country.
All the paintings I have seen show him white with long flowing (sometimes blonde) hair.
He should have been dark with a mop of unruly black curly hair and beard.
Go figgur…

#29

Yeah, and the da Vinci painting The Last Supper has them all on the same side of the table on chairs, only Judas has Jewish facial features, the bread is leavened. FWIW

#30
TonyWalsham said:
Steve, Your reasoning, if we could call it that, is flawed.

To be made in Gods image would require proof that God exists.
By your own admission that cannot be proven.


I have made no such admission. Have you proven that G-d does not exist?

TonyWalsham said:
Even you agreed that we (mankind) have descended from apes. Even if you didn't meant to say it. :)
No, Tony, I said that YOU are descended from an ape. You alone. That is called an insult where I am from, just in case you are confused. Since you are descended from an ape, I am sure that can happen to you frequently. :lol:
TonyWalsham said:
As a human being is often defined scientifically as a creature that is capable of rational thought, your firm belief in creationism would lead some eminent humanists to be believe you are not a rational person, and therefore not really human after all.
And, since they tend to ignore the evidence right in front of their noses of G-d's greatness, I tend to return the favor of believing that they are not "rational person(s), and therefore not really human after all."
#31

Steve,
if one is of the opinion that he is not required to acknowedge the existence of a god, then the onus of proof is not on him to disprove god’s existence. The onus is on the believer to prove it.

      Of cause,  in Jesus' words - "Blessed are those who believe and yet have not seen" in response to the words of Thomas the doubter.  Many do not acknowledge the existence of god during their lifetime,  but on their dying breath,  they seek his countenance.  Like having a bet both ways.
#32
Tim Brien said:
Steve, if one is of the opinion that he is not required to acknowedge the existence of a god, then the onus of proof is not on him to disprove god's existence. The onus is on the believer to prove it. 
      Of cause,  in Jesus' words - "Blessed are those who believe and yet have not seen" in response to the words of Thomas the doubter.  Many do not acknowledge the existence of god during their lifetime,  but on their dying breath,  they seek his countenance.  Like having a bet both ways.</blockquote>

And your point is???..

That 10:27 sure is behind schedule today, isn’t it? :smiley: I wonder if Ed the engineer got lucky this morning.

King me.

#33
Tim Brien said:
Steve, if one is of the opinion that he is not required to acknowedge the existence of a god, then the onus of proof is not on him to disprove god's existence. The onus is on the believer to prove it. 
      Of cause,  in Jesus' words - "Blessed are those who believe and yet have not seen" in response to the words of Thomas the doubter.  Many do not acknowledge the existence of god during their lifetime,  but on their dying breath,  they seek his countenance.  Like having a bet both ways.</blockquote>

I believe that can be called a “foxhole conversion”. Why is it on Steve, or me to prove God’s existence, wouldn’t it be equally correct to ask the one you tells us God does not exist to prove his statement? me thinks so.

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#35

And your point is???..

Whether you believe G-d exists or not does not affect me. You have free choice. But, you cannot prove that He does not exist, can you.

#36

Look at it this way, Tony.

If you are right, and He does not exist, I haven’t lost anything by exercising a harmless passtime.

If I am right, and G-d does exist, think of all that you will loose, by not believing…

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#38

Peace.

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#40

Did you get stuck in a time/space warp?