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The Hipocrisy of Palin

When Sarah Palin was mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla (population of less than 10,000), she had hired a lobbyist to go after earmark money for her town. Not any old lobbyist but former chief of staff for corruption boy himself, Sen. Ted Stevens, and paid him to the tune of $140,000. Though it paid big time as they wound up getting earmarks of $27 million dollars about the same as Boise, Idaho with a population 200,000 people. Palin wound up getting about $3,000 of your tax dollars for each resident. Now she is riding high on the reform bandwagon supposedly going to Washington to stop people like herself.

more on the story at - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94203271

How you liking her now?

-Brian

Hey Brian :wink:

That was then and this is now; besides, women are entitled to change their mind. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

I like Sarah Palin just fine. Seems she is able to get things done for her constituents! But remember, John McCain is the one running for president, not Ms. Palin.

I live in a small village and we always think highly of elected officials who are able to get funding for our local necessities. In fact, we just spent over $200,000 in FAA / Caltrans Aeronautics money for repairs and some improvements to our small airport. I know you folks around the Capital beltway don’t like sending any of those dollars back to us country folk, but we like to get at least as good as we pay. Makes us feel better writing out those tax checks.

And Brian, just to keep things fairly even, could you please research and report on the records of Barack Obama and Joe Biden with regards to pork barrel funding and expenditures of federal dollars in their respective districts? I think that would be an interesting comparison.

Happy RRing,

jerry

Biden has certainly delivered for Delaware.

But then, he’s not married to someone who wants Delaware to secede from the union

Jerry Bowers said:
I like Sarah Palin just fine. Seems she is able to get things done for her constituents! But remember, John McCain is the one running for president, not Ms. Palin.

I live in a small village and we always think highly of elected officials who are able to get funding for our local necessities. In fact, we just spent over $200,000 in FAA / Caltrans Aeronautics money for repairs and some improvements to our small airport. I know you folks around the Capital beltway don’t like sending any of those dollars back to us country folk, but we like to get at least as good as we pay. Makes us feel better writing out those tax checks.

And Brian, just to keep things fairly even, could you please research and report on the records of Barack Obama and Joe Biden with regards to pork barrel funding and expenditures of federal dollars in their respective districts? I think that would be an interesting comparison.

Happy RRing,

jerry


I have no problems with reasonable earmarked projects. Domestic spending creates more jobs than spending it on the military. Of course your $200,000 divided among the 1,400 residents of Boonville works out to $143/each. Not quite what the Wisalla residents are getting. Maybe you need to hire to the former chief of staff of a corrupt senator on the appropriations committee to get more than your fair share.
Feel free to do your own research on pork barrel spending. Find the appropriations for Arizona, Delaware and Illinois and divide among the Senators and Representatives for each state and see what it works out to. I’d be curious too.

-Brian

I would say that we are truly not interested in getting “more than our fair share.”

Virtually all the money we get for the airport comes from aircraft fuel taxes. We don’t have a facility that sells fuel here, but every based and transient aircraft purchases fuel somewhere, so we get to share some of the tax money collected. That along with a significant amount of volunteer labor and donations keep this airport in pretty good shape. BTW, our airport is what would be described as a regional airport, serving the residents of an area significantly larger than Boonville, I would guess the population of the area nominally served is closer to 5,000 or so, so our per-capita take is even less than your estimate. As to hiring a consultant, you might be on to something!

As to the bring home of the other presidential candidates, I was under the impression you had already done it, as you published the amount of Ms. Palin’s ‘booty,’ as if there was something outrageous about it. I was just hoping for your equal treatment for all. I personally don’t see it as a problem so I won’t be pursuing it.

Happy RRing,

Jerry

Brian,

Interesting reading. This gal is looking better all the time. Thanks for sharing.

Ric Golding said:
Brian,

Interesting reading. This gal is looking better all the time. Thanks for sharing.


Please explain. I would really like to know.

-Brian

Brian Donovan said:
Ric Golding said:
Brian,

Interesting reading. This gal is looking better all the time. Thanks for sharing.


Please explain. I would really like to know.

-Brian


To start with, for so many people to suddenly go to such great lengths to try to destroy her (not just politically, but personally) Says a LOT about her potential. Think about it. It isn’t likely to change your mind, but try it anyway.

We COULD go in depth into Obama’s lack of accomplishments despite all his supposed “talent”, or Biden’s knack for talking with BOTH feet in his mouth. But we mostly aren’t…why is that?

Brian; while you are throwing mud at my party maybe you should take a close look at your own! They were and are in power for far to long and have cost us all way to much money, our tax money not their money! As for spending on the military, you would not be able to write what you write, sap what you like to say, and maybe even be alive if it were not for the military defending your rights!!

Personelly I’m throwing them ALL out of office, getting new representatives, and changing the rules 4 years is the term and NO MORE, the retirement is what you earn, take money under the table and it is proved you are out period. Part of the problem is that they are professional politicians and very professional at that, they think it is their life’s work.

I do not think that is what was intented by our founding father!!

Paul Conservative and damnd prod of it!

The point isn’t that she delivered pork for her town–she clearly did. This is what you want your politicians to do, at least partly.

Brian’s point is hypocrisy

She endorsed the bridge to nowhere, then when Congress canned it she kept the money and spent it on her pet projects. She’s been presenting herself, and being presented as, a heroic campaigner against earmarks, but that’s now how she operated at all.

Now unless you think facts don’t matter, only image matters, you should find some moral disconnect here. In olden times we called this lying.

You’re of course free to do this to Obama or Biden. Biden has a record of bringing the pork home. But then he has not cast himself as the heroic opponent of pork barrel spending.

You guys like her, as far as I can tell, because she’s cute and she owns guns. Is that all it takes to be President of the US anymore?

If McCain had chosen Pawlenty, or Christine Todd Whitman, or any number of other people, none of this would be happening. He chose a barely known person and did not investigate her background . Then they started framing her in claims that turn out not to be true. No problem there?

My most recent favorite is she cut funding for programs for unwed mothers–that is, rpograms designed to make it easier or unwed mothers to keep their babies–while also being “pro-life.”

it was incredible to watch how poorly Bush planned the Iraq war. Not enough troops ,no strategy for governance. I don’t want to see that kind of thing again

And just now the McCain campaign staged a phto op where McCain shakes hand with Levi, the kid who got Bristol Palin pregnant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCPZZb7zHp8

It’s pretty astonishing–first, that he’s shaking hands with a kid who knocked up a 17 year old girl as if he’s a fine young man instead of an irresponsible jerk. The potential president of the US. Doesn’t that seem like a really odd thing?

And then second, the McCain campaign is the one that keeps putting bristol palin and her kid into the public eye. It’s not the mean media that’s doing this. McCain could have greeted the kid privately, but here they staged a photo op

I’m amazed

E. Paul Austin said:
Brian; while you are throwing mud at my party maybe you should take a close look at your own! They were and are in power for far to long and have cost us all way to much money, our tax money not their money! As for spending on the military, you would not be able to write what you write, sap what you like to say, and maybe even be alive if it were not for the military defending your rights!!

Personelly I’m throwing them ALL out of office, getting new representatives, and changing the rules 4 years is the term and NO MORE, the retirement is what you earn, take money under the table and it is proved you are out period. Part of the problem is that they are professional politicians and very professional at that, they think it is their life’s work.

I do not think that is what was intented by our founding father!!

Paul Conservative and damnd prod of it!


Were and are in power?
We have had a Republican President for 20 of the last 28 years.
Most of that 28 years the Republicans controlled Congress also. More Governors were Republican too.
Look it up.
Bill Clinton had a balance budget. Reagan, Bush & Bush did not.
Clinton’s hummer didn’t cost me a dime…besides the money wasted “investigating” and prosecuting.
Bush cost me money every day…probably for the rest of my life.
Ralph

Brian Donovan said:
Ric Golding said:
Brian,

Interesting reading. This gal is looking better all the time. Thanks for sharing.


Please explain. I would really like to know.

-Brian


Pretty simple, I thought. The more I read about Sarah Palin, the more I feel she was the best choice for John McCain. McCain was not my first choice as someone I would vote for. But he is somebody I would use to vote against the other guy. I think he is showing that he has good judgement and I’m liking Sarah better every day with how she is handling the problems thrown at her. I was thanking you for providing me with the link. In my little town of 3500, I work every day to bring more tax dollar back to this community than we give to Springfield, Chicago and Washington, DC. Hell sometime I even have to shake hands with liberals and lawyers, but that is part of the job. I wash my hands often.

Ric Golding said:
I wash my hands often.

No, not good enough. This is what we require:

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Source: recipe for Halloween cookies at: http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/images/200fingers.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/archives/2006/10/&h=140&w=200&sz=7&hl=en&start=11&um=1&usg=__t98Hn9_nJ5UPnTbug-O_t8tWoqE=&tbnid=cMNlXzcwYyBAjM:&tbnh=73&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhuman%2Bhand%2Bbeing%2Bchopped%2Boff%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26cr%3DcountryAU%26safe%3Doff

I read the transcript of her speech, and it’s pretty amazing ploy. It seems like the new Republican position is to pretend they were never in power. The Republicans in 20000 got complete control–they controlled the house and the Senate and the Presidency. Ans they have made far more Supreme Court appointments than Dems over the last twenty years. The Dems got control of the house in 2006, but not the Senate.

the current mess is a republican mess, but the current strategy seems to be to pretend it was someone else.

“The Dems got control of the house in 2006, but not the Senate.”

mike,

Please name the present majority leader in the senate. Does that person have a R or D after their name?

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik

Sure, but not a veto proof majority–because of the way the senate works, the Dems have been unable to get anything past a unified republican block. Here’s link that explains it

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/18218.html

As you can see, the senate dems have nothing like control of the Senate. They may get it, but they don’t have it now.

mike,

You didn’t answer my question.

I believe you are confusing a “presidential veto” (which is a function of the executive branch) with a “filibuster proof majority”, which indeed would be “control of the senate”.

If the majority leader (presently a Dem which you failed to name) is against a bill, the minority party can’t even get its bills to the floor for debate, let alone a vote, (eg, allow drilling for oil in ANWAR,etc).

So, that’s not in control of the senate? What kind of spin is that?

According to your (official, certified, cast in stone, undebatable, unarguable) definition, when was the last time (or last 3 or 4 times) any one party was in control of the senate? (Party name, number of majority senators, dates from/to, president’s party, house majority party)

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik

edit: add bold

Calm down Joe!

I don’t have an official anything, just an opinion. The republicans had a nearly filibuster proof majority of the Senate in 2000. It’s almost impossible to have a filibuster proof majority, althoguh it’s looking like the Dems may get in 2008. let the good times role!

Otherwise I’ll be happy to yield to your superior knowledge on this issue.