An American caboose?
Whoop-de-do!
Anudder freakin repaint.
What else is new?
jb
“A solution is still being worked out for the American market.”
Hmm, interesting choice of words.
should interject, I ripped this from MLS as posted by:
Stan Silverman
Sammamish, Washington
The ‘homage’ to the American caboose’ does not imply a ‘new’ production model, but merely an article on the models produced thus far from the original #4065 and its subsequent variants.
As I said on MLS, I’ll beleive it when I see stock on US shelves, till then only the Euros can enjoy this news.
Victor Smith said:Not wishing to start a war, but I posted this on MLS in response to Mr Smith's post there -
As I said on MLS, I'll beleive it when I see stock on US shelves, till then only the Euros can enjoy this news.
'It is not necessary to adopt a sour-grapes attitude to the present LGB regime and their openly-admitted striving to re-establish themselves and re-capture their place in the truly enormous European market, but it’s also important to know that a huge number of the ‘Euro’s’ model only US-outline LGB stock. I’m just one of about thirty or forty that I know personally - ALL model nothing but the older or more modern US locos and cars. One guy I know has over 500 cars and 100 locos on his 2500ft trackage - ALL LGB. I only model the WP&YR as far as LGB is concerned, but I bought all I could ever want or handle years ago.
It’s also important to know that here in UK I have not detected more than the slightest hint of shortages of stock either, nor, if you look at the pages of adverts in the American GR, does there seem to have been any shortage of stock stateside - I’m not going to name names, but full-page spread after full-page spread of tiny printed lists of LGB stock does not shout ‘shortage’ to me. True, my local LGB dealer has expanded his stock interest into other makes, sure, but his shelves have never been less than full of LGB stuff.
It may well be that I’ve been looking in the wrong places, and for sure there has been a noticeable shortage of LGB track in some quarters. Having said that, an enthusiastic newbie recently bought himself over $6000-worth of LGB track from one dealer, who told him that far from buying him out, he actually could do it ten times over if he had wanted to.
An awful lot has been written over the last year or so - rumour and counter-rumour, hints and suggestions, innuendo and downright cr&p. My suggestion is that someday a book needs to be written about this episode/glitch in the long life of EPL. As for the ‘facts’, well, there are rumours and downright lies, and the truth, as ever, is somewhere in between.
My $0.02
tac’
What the hell - it’s early saturday morning and it’s peeing down, mrs tac and the tribe are off sunning themselves in Menorca, and I’m left here with not a lot to do.
I’m going to count the LGB stuff in the last edition of GR -
St Aubins - 39 items and five train sets.
Gold Coast Station CA ‘looking for something hard to find? Call us’
Lantz’s Train Shop NY - ‘Huge inventory’
Charles Ro Mass - ‘We carry a complete line of [LGB] products’
Watts Train Shop Indiana - Do you REALLY have to ask?
Trainworld/Trainland NY - On the first two pages - 108 different locos and cars - with all 8 variants of the Amtrak cars, 8 different centre flow hoppers, 6 different 50’ boxcars, 7 locos not illustrated but for sale.
Next page - 25 different starter sets - 52 different passenger cars - 72 freight cars…
Upland Trains CA - ‘LGB Specialists - check us out…’
Garden Train Supply Maine - 'Specialize in ‘G’ scale LGB
Town & County Collectables MD - LGB
The Pizza Express LGB Train Shop Il - speaks for itself
THIS you call a shortage?
Don’t make me laff.
tac
Hi Terry,
Most of the bashing of the new LGB owners is coming from “friends” of the now deposed former LGB owners.
They still haven’t got it through their collective heads yet that the two young Turks stuffed up and lost it.
Notwithstanding their “manouvering” to try and get the carcass back for cents in the dollar.
Just wait until next week and all will become clear!!!
If anyone really knew the current stock situation, then they would know that magazine advertising deadlines require a minimum three months advance notice. If one really thinks that the major online discounters really have stock listed in advertisements, then simply place an order and the truth will be made known. Little of what is advertised, other than stock currently listed ‘as available’ on Silvergate Distributors website is actually available. Try purchasing some European prototype items from the major American online discounters. There is still american starter sets, some American outline locomotives and rolling stock available from most major dealers. Those who comment on the LGB stock situation really should take little to no notice of what is listed (advertised) for sale, but what is actually available for sale. It is common practice for most dealers to take orders and then backorder goods not currently in stock.
In so far as the brick and mortar shops listed, well, most are well known (to the LGB fraternity) as collectors of the marque who buy up big on eBay and purchase LGB private collections for resale to the public. Exactly how much sold is actually technically new unsold condition is relevant.
simple test - place an order for common European items and see what is actually available, not what is advertised. Few stores update their magazine advertisements (three months advertising lead time) or websites, as to current ‘realtime’ stock situation.
Any one looking at the magazine ads as a gauge of LGB availability is deluding themselves. Most of the advertised Aristo and USA trains items are not in stock, much less LGB.
I quit trying ordering from the ads several years ago after many futile attempts to order advertised items. Just look at the Trainworld site, last time I looked it hadn’t been updated since last year.
Ralph
Terry,
You know as well as I that most of those ads are a pack of lies!
It ain’t only trains shops that use those come-ons, but just about every other “hobby establishments” also.
Makes them look nice and big and prosperous.
jb
Putting on best Andy Hardy voice …You mean they are all [gulp] ‘lying’?
Oh no!!! I’ve lived all these years thinking they were telling the troof!!!
At least I know that MY LGB dealer ain’t lying - I helped stock his shelves with my own two paws.
Well, well [shakes head]…hooda bleeve dit?
tac - disenchanted and disillusioned
Terry A de C Foley said:
Putting on best Andy Hardy voice ..........You mean they are all [gulp] 'lying'?Oh no!!! I’ve lived all these years thinking they were telling the troof!!!
At least I know that MY LGB dealer ain’t lying - I helped stock his shelves with my own two paws.
Well, well [shakes head]…hooda bleeve dit?
tac - disenchanted and disillusioned
Come come Terry, we all know that hardly anyone in the UK is lying - except perhaps Tony Blair. All the rest are handling the truth with great caution and at a safe distance!
Because you never know when that Truth stuff blows up in your face and then it’s hard to keep a straight face or a stiff upper lip. 
Yep, the above paragraph is strictly rumour, innuendo, hearsay and xenophobic suspicion; but he, who had heard it from a distant relative who once considered visiting the UK and retold it to me, had a very convincing expression on his face.
No, I didn’t ask what he does for a living, I stopped that some time ago … too many disappointments. 
My LHS says he still carries LGB, and indeed, he does. He has some track connectors and those clips that some use to hole the tie (sleeper) sections together. He also has a dwindling stock of AMS stuff, too.
He also has a large stock of Lionel, MTH and AtlasO stuff on the shelves, too.
Is Thomas Bradler management-involved with Marklin i.e. LGB of Germany? Or, is he simply an editor of the continued LGB club magazine — which does not mean he is not privy to what is or is not available to the U.S?
In short, will we anticipate he will be a direct source for LGB production information re: the U.S.?
Wendell
Wendell Hanks said:Thomas is the Editor. He was hired by Lehmann to do the new German/English publications and was rehired by Märklin to continue the publication. He knows what he is told. He also publishes a TT scale magazine.
Is Thomas Bradler management-involved with Marklin i.e. LGB of Germany? Or, is he simply an editor of the continued LGB club magazine --- which does not mean he is not privy to what is or is not available to the U.S? In short, will we anticipate he will be a direct source for LGB production information re: the U.S.? Wendell
Jack
A point I find amusing is that, apart from a few well-known respondents, most of the comments are from people who do not actually purchase the product or actually have an interest in the subject. There is nothing devisive in the comments in the editorial. The editor is merely commenting that European production is ramping up, hard to get items are finally making it to market and to date, no distribution arrangement has been made for the American market. He was simply stating facts. Why would anyone actually feel the need to criticise his statements?
“He knows what he is told”.
That sounds more like the LGB buying public and LGBoA/Silvergate to me.
I suspect that “He knows more than he and his boss have decided to tell us” is far more accurate and certainlt less inflamatory.
i am of course assuming that the American expression “hired” means “employee”.
Les
LES DITTRICH said:I guess it is pretty easy to "Inflame" you. Employee = not management. If it helps you understand, the negotiations on distribution have been with the Märklin management team not with the LGB management team.
"He knows what he is told". That sounds more like the LGB buying public and LGBoA/Silvergate to me. I suspect that "He knows more than he and his boss have decided to tell us" is far more accurate and certainlt less inflamatory. i am of course assuming that the American expression "hired" means "employee". Les
Jack