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Sutro Railway Rolling Stock

For a couple of years, I’ve been doing research and writing on the various engines used in the Sutro Tunnel, which drained the Comstock mines in Nevada from 1878 onward.

I’ve also been working on the cars used, and yes, they were mainly rock-haulers. But several unique cars were preserved, and are now housed in “The Way It Was Museum” in Virginia City, NV. I’m out here in the Carson City area for a week, for the V&T conference. So a visit here was in order.

A friend of mine, Rob, a serious Sutro historian, arranged for us (along with his history-buff friend, Pat) to photo and measure five pieces of rolling stock in TWIWM today, and it went great! Huge thanks to Mr. Petrini, the owner of the museum, for letting us do this.

The “timber car,” basically a carry-all which could haul everything from the 12x12 timbers being constantly replaced in the 4-mile tunnel, to candles, ice, and other supplies.

The “crew car,” very similar, but with longitudinal benches and seats & foot-brakes for the driver at each end.

The maintainence car is very odd. You turn the crank to elevate the platform about two feet, and rotate it 90 degrees, enough to stand on boxes on each end to replace a ceiling timber. We were allowed to roll it out to photo it; I’ll have to stitch the pics together somehow. There is mechanism beneath the chassis, perhaps to stabilize the raised frame. We couldn’t really tell, so this is an ongoing puzzle.



I love the “powder car,” which has sprung bumpers, and suspension for its load-bearing platform. We were allowed to take a few artifacts off it to take the shots.


Without question, my favorite piece is the handle-driven velocipede. From other documents I’ve researched, it was used by the tunnel foreman, starting with Jim Bluett. He must have had decent arm muscles, working this thing most days, all along the 4-mile-long tunnel and back, supervising various crews. It was light enough to lift off the track for an opposing rock train.


We were able to photo and measure everything in less than three hours, and then went to lunch. After that I drove down to the Sutro site, and got dimensions of the “signature car” of ths operation, the ore car. This is the later version, but still very old.



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Great ideas for the 7/8" side of me. :+1:

I love the “V & T Foundry” lettering on the wheels.

Cool. And if you felt it, S gauge (7/8") track is perfect for this gauge (21") in 1:24 scale.

Right on man, me too along with the coil spring bumpers and coupler eyelet!

AHHH!
Being near my home town and stomping grounds. Brings back so many memories.

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Cliff;

Way-way back in the day, I had an American Flyer exploding TNT car. I thought it was too tame, so I wired on an extra circuit to the floor and would mount an A1g flashbulb (remember those) to those wires. When the solenoid released the “mousetrap” activator, the car would “explode” with a flash. Much more satisfying, but no BOOM! Tried using Greenie Stickem caps, but no joy. They just didn’t have enough Oomph. A small firecracker probably would have given a satisfactory report, but folks would be finding small pieces of that car embedded in the wall to this day!

Oh well, David Meashey

I hear ya, Bruce. Except for this annual trip, I always miss Nevada. And I’m not even from here.

I found a photo today of another very odd Sutro car, the one on the left. (On the right is the “inspector’s car,” aka the Emma Sutro, stripped of her roof and front seat.)

  • To me the car looks like either a pump or air compresssor, having:
  • Pumping handle at the top
  • A smaller cylinder in front, with the handle acting on a plunger
  • The handle being mounted on a tapered, domed cylinder in back
  • Inlet/outlet fittings on the front cylinder

Because of those fittings (?), I’m inclined to think this is a moble pumping car, which makes a lot of sense in a very wet tunnel. But if that’s the case, why the domed cylinder behind, which seems like an air tank?

Anyone seen a similar hand pump?

I think you are spot on so I had to look some up. Appears there are many different designs but I have no time for a “well pump rabbit hole” cause the rabbits ate all my cannabis plants.

When the rabbits eat cannabis, do they get the munchies? That would make for plump rabbits. When you cook and eat a cannabis fed rabbit do you get a buzz?

Thanks for that, Rooster. Yeah it’s gotta be a purchased product mounted to a car.

One could waste a day looking for that design. Hmm…

Wayne,
It’s called “Baked Rabbit”

Seems like a “force pump”, probably double-acting, is a good candidate.

In this catalog, the following (pdf) pages are interesting. The second piston may be hidden behind the air chamber in the center.

266-271: garden or fire engines
127-129: house force pumps

Another manufacturer:

142-144: two-cylinder force pump, fire engine
146-147: double-acting force pump

Another pump maker:
146: hand fire engine

These catalogues are interesting… like the Field Force Pump Co. showing this guy wearing a suit and tie while spraying with both hands, and some unknown motive power is hauling the wagon having the rear wheels geared to do the pumping.

With no seat or anything to brace himself against the hauling motions, that dude probably had a sore back at the end of the day.

Fortunately, the Lewis & Cowles pump-making company had a side-line in recliners. I think this is the same guy:

Anyway, none of the force pumps I’ve seen match the actual photo at the top. Close, but no cigar yet.