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Stepping into family history

Today in celebration of my daughters 2nd birthday we went to the St. Louis Museum of Transportation. Before we ate cake, some members of my family and I went up to the train sheds and got a close look at the engine my Grandfather was the fireman on when he worked for the Alton and Southern Railroad when steam was the rule and diesel was just sputtering around. Grandpa Fred Siddle died before I was born and seeing a steam engine in action was long over. My uncle and father remember the story of when their father and his friends questioned " if we the use diesel electric engines when it rains won’t we get electrocuted?" I was told that my Grandfather was the last fireman to work on the on the Alton & Southern Railroad, his ALCO 0-8-0 #12 was the last A&S steam engine in use and my grandfather was the last one who worked her. Where he took her to the museum in 1948.

To see it in such sad shape is unbelievable, considering other things I have seen and have of his are very well taken care of. But we were told for $30,000.00 the museum will sand and repaint her. Well if Ed MacMan and that huge check show up at my door on Super bowl Sunday or the Lottery gods look favorable upon me forget the paint were talk’n total restoration. (I can get the live steam engine I always dreamed of)

Despite being told don’t go near or in it by a museum official that didn’t want us back here in the first place… I waited till the group left toward the shed then I walked around the engine and climbed aboard. To sit in the seat he rode for most of his job was truly an experience that I will always cherish. As I looked around the cab touched its levers and gauges, the thought of this big beautiful girl thundering down the track at full steam was truly exciting. I swear I could smell the steam and the smoke billowing from the front as it rolled toward the back of the train. After a few moments in the cab I stepped into the tender and looked forward I really felt as if my grandfather was there telling shovel that coal and she will go!

As I got down and headed toward the rest of my family covered in rust and dirt, I looked back upon #12 and not seeing a rusting relic of our past. Instead I saw my grandfather standing on the side of cab waving to me as she rolled on by.

Yes I do have pictures I would post them if I knew how. I tell she is a beautiful engine the pictures just do not do her justice. Over all A great day was had by my 2 year old daughter and myself. It was nice to see an old relative that gave so much to this family years ago.

Todd,

What a fantastic experience! I envy you.

Jack

Todd Siddle said:
Today in celebration of my daughters 2nd birthday we went to the St. Louis Museum of Transportation. Before we ate cake, some members of my family and I went up to the train sheds and got a close look at the engine my Grandfather was the fireman on when he worked for the Alton and Southern Railroad when steam was the rule and diesel was just sputtering around. Grandpa Fred Siddle died before I was born and seeing a steam engine in action was long over. My uncle and father remember the story of when their father and his friends questioned " if we the use diesel electric engines when it rains won't we get electrocuted?" I was told that my Grandfather was the last fireman to work on the on the Alton & Southern Railroad, his ALCO 0-8-0 #12 was the last A&S steam engine in use and my grandfather was the last one who worked her. After that she was sat in East St. Louis yards until they towed her to the museum years ago.

To see it in such sad shape is unbelievable, considering other things I have seen and have of his are very well taken care of. But we were told for $30,000.00 the museum will sand and repaint her. Well if Ed MacMan and that huge check show up at my door on Super bowl Sunday or the Lottery gods look favorable upon me forget the paint were talk’n total restoration. (I can get the live steam engine I always dreamed of)

Despite being told don’t go near or in it by a museum official that didn’t want us back here in the first place… I waited till the group left toward the shed then I walked around the engine and climbed aboard. To sit in the seat he rode for most of his job was truly an experience that I will always cherish. As I looked around the cab touched its levers and gauges, the thought of this big beautiful girl thundering down the track at full steam was truly exciting. I swear I could smell the steam and the smoke billowing from the front as it rolled toward the back of the train. After a few moments in the cab I stepped into the tender and looked forward I really felt as if my grandfather was there telling shovel that coal and she will go!

As I got down and headed toward the rest of my family covered in rust and dirt, I looked back upon #12 and not seeing a rusting relic of our past. Instead I saw my grandfather standing on the side of cab waving to me as she rolled on by.

Yes I do have pictures I would post them if I knew how. I tell she is a beautiful engine the pictures just do not do her justice. Over all A great day was had by my 2 year old daughter and myself. It was nice to see an old relative that gave so much to this family years ago.


Todd,

Yes, those are the things to remember!

When I was twelve we lived in the Eastern part of Switzerland near St.Gallen. Each year they have a huge agricultural exhibition and many extra trains are put into service.

The one Sunday I was down at the station, one of the Extras on the “team track” waiting for the next deployment. I got talking to the engineer and he invited me up in the cab. Showed me all the controls then asked: “would you like to run it?”

So here I was, 12 years old, running the train a few meters forward and then back to the same spot. Not a super big deal since it was electric, but a huge deal for a train crazy kid! Being train crazy and growing up in Switzerland was a very good combination! One just needed to talk to people! :wink: :slight_smile: Funny thing though, I don’t remember a relative working for the railway. Odd, eh?!?

Todd,

My father-in-law used to take me to the same museum, whenever we would visit. I miss that…and him.

It is a wonderful place.

SteveF

Great story, Todd. I was involved in hauling 23rd street ballast to the site in 1968 from the rebuild of the 23rd Street yard behind Union Station in downtown St. Louis. I didn’t know the museum existed that many years before that. Never thought about when the museum was started at Barrett Station.

I did some history research this morning and found out the Museum originated as a collection of trains by the American Railroad Association in the 1940’s. In 1969, the group gave its collection and the land it was on to St. Louis County for use as a county park. Also that my Grandfather did work the last ride on #12 to the museum in 1948 when it was retired from service on the Alton and Southern Railroad.

Posting these for Todd, if they are two big, please someone give us a hand with the magic shrinking commands. I know some of these are monsters, your help and patience is appreciated.

John - Thank you for your help.

Ric, Here’s a smaller version. You can delete yours if you want. jb

Your story rang all sorts of bells with me, Todd. Thanks for sharing!

THank you to all who helped and replyed. Well I did donate $40.00 to be a member so only 29,960.00 to go till she gets a face lift.

Todd Siddle

30 grand to sandblast and paint black seems a bit steep to me.

John Bouck said:
30 grand to sandblast and paint black seems a bit steep to me.
May take more than just sandblasting and a coat of paint to get it presentable ... and keep it that way. ;) :)

Obviously John has not taken a car to the body shop lately…and they are a LOT smaller than that locomotive.

Actually most of the $30,000.00 is for the removal of lead paint. There is a chunck of it to go toward the moving of the loco to a facility that can remove the lead paint and dispose of properly. But don’t forget we need to move the locomotive back to the museum to be painted.

Todd