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Southern Illinois Coal

This was on the Evansville Western RR list today. Sounds like big coal sales in Southern Illinois.

This falls under the I’ll believe it when I see it category. If it does
happen though 15 million tons of coal, if all moved by rail, would equal
roughly 4 trains a day, 365 days a year.

http://www.mcleansborotimesleader.com/local/local_story_296150821.html
White Oak files mining permit

By PAUL LORENZ

[email protected]

McLEANSBORO — White Oak Resources LLC has taken another step toward
the startup of a coal mining operation here — the filing of a mining
permit with the state.

Calling it a “major milestone,” Mike Tracy, White Oak’s
chief executive officer, announced Oct. 9 that the company filed a
permit last month with the Illinois Department of Mines and Minerals for
White Oak Mine No. 1.

Tracy made the announcement outside Hamilton County Court House with
company, local and state officials in attendance.

“We’ve always said Southern Illinois will be king again in
coal,” state Rep. Brandon Phelps said, “and this is the first
step of it.”

Permitting is expected to be complete in the second quarter of 2009, at
which time construction will begin on the shaft, slope and surface
facilities, a White Oak news release stated.

The company will start mining coal in “mid-2010,” Tracy said.

White Oak plans to build two longwall mines, one northwest and a second
northeast of McLeansboro, and the company has a third mine area set up
southeast of the city, Tracy said last month.

The company anticipates bringing more than 300 construction jobs to the
area next spring, and approximately 375 permanent jobs per mine at full
production. White Oak is projecting an annual payroll in five years of
more than $5 million a year, Tracy said.

Regarding White Oak’s lease agreement with Hamilton County for
reserves under the county’s control, the company projects that the
county will receive $6.2 million in royalties over the first five years,
Tracy said.

“Also, a lot of individuals will be receiving royalties,” he
said.

Talking about the “spinoff” jobs that new mines in the area
would create, Tracy announced that Joy Manufacturing would be making
equipment to go in the mine and would be providing a service center
— probably in Mt. Vernon — for the equipment.

“We have service centers all around the world, strategically located
to accommodate our customers,” Joy Manufacturing Midwest America
Sales Manager Billy Kirkpatrick said.

Details on equipment and servicing were still being negotiated as of
last week, and it was too early in the process to disclose any details,
Kirkpatrick said.

White Oak is also working closely with Rend Lake College, which is
building a coal mine training facility, “to make sure we get people
from this area into that program,” Tracy said.

Each White Oak mine will have a designed production capacity of 7
million tons of salable coal per year, and an estimated life of more
than 40 years, the news release said.

The company has been acquiring reserves in Hamilton County for about two
years. It will have access to approximately 106,000 acres and more than
1.8 billion tons of coal reserves in and around Hamilton County, the
news release said.

White Oak is “fortunate to have identified and acquired this
reserve,” Steve Rowland, the company’s general manager of
operations, said in the news release.

“It is a 6- to 8-foot coal seam which is ideal for modern mining
techniques,” Rowland said. “We are also fortunate to be in
Southern Illinois, where there is an experienced workforce and a coal
mine heritage that goes back a hundred years.”

White Oak has “several committed investors, some of whom have close
ties to the project area,” the news release said. More than $400
million will be invested for the first mine, the release said.

“We are proud to be in Hamilton County and have had a great
reception here,” Tracy said.

The coal industry had been seeing huge increases in demand as oil prices rose. Now that the oil price is correcting the coal industry might think twice about big capital investments. Guys on the EBT list keep talking about how much coal is still left on Broad Top. Problem is that most of it is so difficult to get the price of coal will have to double again in relation to mining costs (not just due to inflation) in order to make mining it cost effective. It does look like your So Ill coal seam is at least easily mined.

So, if this happens will the coal drags be routed near you?

And speaking of hopper trains… Today has been cold, rainy and windy. A perfect night to rail fan the stone train. They need 5 or 6 engines to get the train up the grades on rail made slippery with rain and leaves. The commuter railroad sent an odd looking Hi-Rail truck down grade this afternoon. Had two strange looking boxes mounted on the back just above the rail head. Could they be sanding in advance of an upgrade train?

Certainly not helping the railroad industry, but the latest coal mine rage around here is to build the power plants at the coal mines. We have one of these being built south and a little west of us. It is providing a large number of jobs during construction and for operations. Southern Illinois has had a real depressed economy for a couple of decades because of the high sulphur content in the soft coal. The University of Southern Illinois and the State Capitol are now both using this coal and able to comply with all admission standards. This whole thing is a huge political football around here.

Large coal trains still come by daily carrying Powder River Coal through here to power plants in this state and others, immediately south and east of us. Empty train heading west passed within two blocks of the house as I type this.

Ric.

I would think complying with admission standards would be relatively straightforward.

Do they comply with emission standards? :wink:

It has been a major goal of Illinois and the Southern Illinois University, since we lost favor with the coal market and the influx of Powder River Coal. I think it has been very successful and they are now rebuilding the market and awaiting old contracts to run out with utilities that pay a fortune for coal to be hauled halfway across the country.

Coal is still going strong here , oh yes , they one by one shut down Union mines , and then later re-open as a re-named corp and non-union , but digging coal where they had been digging before , … .

Still there are LOTS of coal trucks and Lots of coal trains moving around and thru here in Southern Indiana , sort of the same coal bowel as Illinois .

Retired from 41 years in coal fired power plants , and NOT missing the coal dust , flyash , boiler gas , precips , bag houses , scrubbers , etc etc etc .

…grinning…

Ric Golding said:
Certainly not helping the railroad industry, but the latest coal mine rage around here is to build the power plants at the coal mines. We have one of these being built south and a little west of us. It is providing a large number of jobs during construction and for operations. Southern Illinois has had a real depressed economy for a couple of decades because of the high sulphur content in the soft coal. The University of Southern Illinois and the State Capitol are now both using this coal and able to comply with all admission standards. This whole thing is a huge political football around here.

Large coal trains still come by daily carrying Powder River Coal through here to power plants in this state and others, immediately south and east of us. Empty train heading west passed within two blocks of the house as I type this.


In the early 1900’s, what would become the Chicago & Illinois Midland was built to haul the coal coming out of the mines around Kincaid, Ill, and was very busy until Commonwealth Edison built a very large power plant directly across from the only remaining coal mine in the area, the huge Peabody Mine 10 (reportedly the largest underground mine in the world.) A belt directly from the mine to the power plant almost spelled the end of the C&IM.
When air quality standards (and probably prices from the union coal mine) led to the power plant switching to western coal, it ressurected the railroad, which now dumps coal practically non-stop onto the belt that almost cost it its existence.
What goes around…

Oh. I expect the lawyers and the politicians can put a stop to it.