I discovered this link when looking at Jim Carter’s video of Marty Cozad’s steamup. Looks like an interesting set of videos demonstrating the different LGB (Massoth?) sounds. Posted for information value only for those interested in LGB sound capability.
Do you know where I can get the CV values used in programming the 65001 for the LGB Forney? Thank you. jim
Jim,
the #65001 has very little inbuilt adjustment as regards CV values. Are you programming for analogue or digital operation? Basically only address, CV1, CV2, CV3, CV4 and CV5 can be changed, plus CV’s may be adjusted to get chuff synch in both analogue and digital ops. Sounds other than basic chuff are not adjustable or able to be mapped to other function keys. Very basic programming only available. The steam sound is generic and not adjustable. I used quite a few due their simplicity in setting up. Only downside was everything sounded the same.
I am adjusting for analog operation. According to the instruction manual for the 65001, CV58, CV59 AND CV64 are to be programmed. I can make some difference with CV58 and CV59 but in doing so I got CV5 at 1 and not the default 255. Cannot seem to change CV5 back to default. Thank you for your info.
Jim,
setting up chuff synch for analogue is a compromise. Because I never ran at high speed (read high track voltage), I adjusted the chuff ‘low end’ CV (58?) to give me chuff just as the loco commenced to move. However, by doing so, one gets ‘chuff runaway’ at high speed (higher track voltage). I was able to synch almost perfectly at low speed. If you typically run at higher speed then adjust your ‘high end’ CV to give satisfactory chuff at the higher track voltage. This will give pathetic chuff synch though at low speed. Compromise???
As always, never have a capacitor storage device hooked up to the #65001 sound unit when programming. You could do a decoder reset and start again. I did all my programming using the #55045 computer programmer and version 6 software. Programming is relatively simple on the unit as there is so little that can actually be adjusted (this is more down to the LGB #55045 programmer as it cannot read CV’s higher than 124 with version 1 software. I was told a version 1.4 was available that could read the whole range of CV’s, but could never source one (I think LGB folded about the time it was to be released - mid 2006)
Tim,
Good point. I do run at lower speeds. Thank you! I am using the LGB 55045 to program with version 6 software. Supposedly, you can read all the CVs and you can program each CV by using CV6. This is in the manual.
So to get the station sounds it now appears that I need to install the LBG 65011 sound booster. Is this correct?
Jim,
apart from chuff and track magnet operated bell/whistle, the other sounds require DCC to activate. The sound storage capacitor will give you basic stationary sounds such as boiler leakage hiss, air compressor and coal shovelling. You cannot activate/control these without DCC. Station announcements require DCC to activate.
Version 1.0 is the usual #55045 programmer around and will only read up to CV 124. My instructions said nothing about CV6 with the programmer. What you have read is reading CV's using the #55015/55016 DCC handset.
For locomotive/tender installations I did use the #65011 sound storage capacitor pack, but it has two shortcomings in that firstly, the capacitors require brisk running to charge up and when running slowly, I would get one circuit only of very slow chuff before the capacitors would lose their charge and lose sound. Without backup, the sound unit is prone to lose power pickup and initiate sound startup procedure 0 very annoying when the loco is still running. To overcome this I used four 1.2 volt ni-cads or similar to power the #65001 sound unit (you could use a 9 volt battery but not real advantage other than smaller overall size. This gave me almost unlimited slow running chuff without fear of losing sound. Very simple to make using a 9-volt typical battery connector and a small two pin connector typically found on Aristo sound boards but most likely found in electrical supply places. If you decide to go the much cheaper battery method then I will post details later, but remember with this method access to batteries is required (not ideal with a loco tender). I used the battery backup method usually when placing the LGB #65001 sound board in a trailing 'sound' car where access is easy through a side door.Tim,
Yes, please post the procedure for the 9V battery method. I have assisted a friend installing Dallee and Phoenix sound units in his engines so I have a good idea. I really appreciate all your help.
Jim,
basically look at the pin connection where the #65011 sound storage unit plugs in to the LGB #65001 sound unit. The pin nearest the track connections is the “+” connection for the battery. The centre pin of the three pins is the “-” connection of the battery. You need a small electrical connector that will fit these pins. I had several old Aristo sound boards around and found a suitable connector on one of them. Simply a matter of wiring up to a 9 volt battery connector found at most electrical supply centres and plugging in. As stated earlier using four 1.2 volt ni-cads does the trick also, so the LGB sound board will work perfectly on around 4.5 volts upwards. Only downside is access to replace/recharge the batteries (unless you wire in a recharge point). The battery method is far superior to the #65011 unit in that it is very inexpensive plus almost unlimited slow running sound not achievable with the expensive capacitor pack from LGB.
Thank you, Tim. I really appreciate your help.