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Shorty Gondola Build (How To)

This will be a simple build of a Gondola car. All my rolling stock are “shorty” versions to help with tight corners and they look more at home in the confined spaces of my pike. The car is inspired by the D&RG 10 ton Gons from the turn of the century. This car is not intended to be a “craftsman’s show” model, but an every day runner that can take the abuse of a hard life on the rails. The basic form looks pretty good with out any added detail, but a few minor details does dress it up nicely. Tools I used: 23 gage pin nailer w/ 3/8, 1/2, 5/8, 3/4" pins, Tightbond III waterproof glue, 1/4" drill bit, 1/8" drill bit, 1/4" nut driver. Build time: 1hr 15min. for basic car. Laying out the pre cut pieces, I put the six beams and the end sills on the full size plans for registration and alignment. The bottom side will be UP. NOTE: the End Sills will be taller then the side beams. Put a drop of glue on the end of each beam and then align with the plans and pin using a 3/4" pin (one per beam). Repeat for the other end. Using the glue and the pins to hold in place, there is no need to wait for the glue to dry before moving on with the build, Be gentle and it will stay in square. Yes you could mess it up if you really try. Here is the basic sub frame:

Using the planes for position, glue the bolster in place on each beam. Use 1 3/8" pin in each beam.

Glue the bolster block on the center of the bolster, and pin with 1/2" pins.

Repeat the bolster assembly on the other end.

And add the bolster block.

Using the planes for position, glue the a needle beam in place with a drop of glue on each beam. Use 1 5/8" pin in each beam.

Repeat for the needle beam on the other end.

We now have a complete under frame for the car.

Flip over to the top side:

Now we will deck the basic frame. Put a small bead of glue on each beam starting on the end sill for about 2 inches (50mm). Place the decking on the frame, starting at the end sill for alignment, abutting each piece against the last one, and work down to the end of the glue. Place 1 each 3/8" pin into each beam, Six per board.

Continue decking the entire top in about 2" sections. The last board may need to be trimmed to fit the end of the end sill.

TA DAH… There is the basic Flat car if you wanted to stop right here. This Basic flat could be used as the starting point for any number of other projects build up from the flat, a idler car for pipe movements, a Caboose, MOW ties and maint, crane tender, Mow caboose and etc. Lets move on and turn it into a 36" Gondola. Using the full size planes as a guide, Working on the outside of the side boards. Lay out the three side boards and glue and pin using 3/8’ pins. One upright to each end, and the center, using 2 pins per board. Off set the pins diagonally on each board. There should be six pins per vertical board. NOTE: align the vertical supports with the top of the side board.

Add the 2 intermediate supports the same way as the end supports.

Turn the side over and add 2 ea. 3/8" pins in each side board into the vertical supports from the inside, staggering the pin placement. Repeat for the other side. You should now have 2 sides that are the same. Using the full size planes as a guide, Working on the outside of the end side boards. Lay out the three side boards and glue and pin using 3/8’ pins. One upright to each end, and the center, using 2 pins per board. Off set the pins diagonally on each board. There should be six pins per vertical board. NOTE: align the vertical supports with the top of the side board.

Turn the side over and add 2 ea. 3/8" pins in each end side board into the vertical supports from the inside, staggering the pin placement. Repeat for the other side. You should now have 2 end sides that are the same. Using the decked car base as a guide, assemble the two sides and the two ends over the car. Offset the ends inside the sides so the bracing on the ends is facing out and is off set so as to be just inside of the end bracing for the sides. Use glue the entire side of the bracing, and 2 3/8" pins per board ( six per side ) both inside and outside.

Repeat for the other end. NOTE: If you are going to paint the car, DO NOT attach the Gon sides until after painting. The Gon sides should be easily removable. And There you have it… the construction is done except for the trucks. As for the trucks… We all have our favorite. I use a basic Bachmann style truck. I cast my own metal side frames and resin telgo mounts to take Bachmann couplers, and metal wheels. It is what I have settled on as my standard, so I will show how I go About mounting my combination. You will have to make any changes to fix your trucks of choice. Standard Bachman freight trucks will mount to my bolster. Reminder this is just a everyday run it into the ground car! Start by drilling a 1/4" hole thru the center of the bolster block and the bolster. Don’t go thru the floor! Put glue into the hole and on the bottom of a 1" long 1/4" hardwood dowel, and insert thru the bolster until it touches the floor board. This should be a snug fit.

Using the 1/8" drill bit, carefully drill into the top of the bolster pin about 5/8 of an inch. Clean out the hole of any debris.

I use a 3/8" #6 “Tapping Screw Slotted” “Indented Hex Washer Head” screw. I carefully set the screw once into the hole, kinda like taping the threads.

Remove the screw, and mount the truck assembly.

If you use body mount couplers you will have to mount to the under frame to fit your standard height. Notching the end sill may be necessary and you could add a sill support on the end if desired. Your millage will vary. Basic Car is done, and ready to roll. Or onto the paint shop.

After painting you can leave it “convertible” or attach the sides to the frame. Up next: Add some basic detail parts.

Good to see the basics being used Dave. Quick and easy builds.

That is a simple to build but great looking car you have there. I have built custom cars before but used a thick wood screw with a long shank on it through the bolster block but I like your idea of putting a dowel into it then tapping that. Your dowel should hold the truck alot better than my shank.
Happiness really is… the drill bit you need is the sharpest in the box.

How about Happiness is… building a great looking custom car for the RR.

Todd

Yes, a great and easy build. I have built several.
I use brass threaded inserts on my bolsters, stealing the idea from Phil Dipple.
(Phil’s Narrow Gauge)

Dave, great Build… Nice, easy, and it makes a great looking freightcar…

What were the sizes of wood you used?

@Jerry Stay tuned…

We call these ‘Operational Quality’ models here at LSC…and my whole fleet is made up of OQ models…keep 'em coming…

Onto some detail parts. I use Ozark Miniature for my dress up parts. This build was intended to be a Keep It simple and cheep car. Also the more fine detail you put on a car, the more fragile it gets. and finding the parts that fall off along the right of way is really hard. Using the pin nailer for assembly shows the heads and they look like they could be the construction bolts ( three foot rules apply). Truss Rods: Simple truss rods really add to a cars looks, Brass wire really has gon up in price lately, I found that welding rods are a great replacement, 1/16" x 36" are a few pennies each at the welding store. Two on the outside look good, if you want to put 4 on be careful of the truck clearance on the inside pair. Using CA (superglue) align two queen posts on the needle beams and bend the wire to fit. I drill a hole in the End Sills and a drop of CA in the hole and on the queens post holds it in place. A turnbuckle is added in the center.

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Drill four shallow holes for the “Truss Rod Bolts”. Use CA glue I know… 4 bolts, 2 truss rods? No Rivet counting! But it looks good.

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Stirrups next, Use CA to mount in the drilled holes, Place back from the vertical posts for clearance. 4 total one on each corner.

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Two grab Irons above each Stirrup. CA used into the shallow holes for mounting.

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And the basic dress up is done.

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If you like more dress up, add cut levers, brake wheels and as many bolt heads as you like. Next: into the paint shop…

Those look great! What size brad nailer are you using?

Mark… The one tool that most people would never give up after having one is the “pin Nailer” 23 gage Pins are micro in size and can hold glued stuff well. Pins come in size from 3/8" up to 1 1/2 inch if your gun will take it. They need only about 30-40 Psi to run, so the smallest compressor will work.

On Sale Now at Harbor Freight $24.99 : http://www.harborfreight.com/23-gauge-pin-nailer-68022.html

A Pin Nailer is a Stocking stuffer you will never regret. I’m sure that others on here will echo my sentiments.

Dave Taylor said:
I know... 4 bolts, 2 truss rods? No Rivet counting! But it looks good.
Looks correct from the top side. I'm not a huge believer in detail you can only see when the car wrecks.

Fresh out of the Paint Shop. Rattle can Black on the Bottom Half. Rustrolum Red Primer on the top.

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Put an Ink, Paint, Alcohol wash on the deck… It needs more attention… but basically done.

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UP next: some decals.

That looks like a string for my mining layout! They can help supply ore for the mill that’s lalmost done.

Spent last night working the clubs modules at our Christmas display. Put the “Shorty Gon” to work.

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After running a bit, parked it at My “Red Mtn. Depot” and it looked at home with it’s sister shorty cars.

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And One Side of the modules.

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If I could figure out how to post Vids I have some (help Hint)

I only ‘scratch’ with styrene…Your cars have me thinking it’s time to cut some wood. Very nice!

Why, it looks so simple even a caveman could do it!

That came out great. Im looking to start scratch building all my rolling stock out of wood and doing away with all my plastic stock (Not that I have that many to start with) Im also going to make a bunch of 4 wheeled cars.

@ Shawn, Lou, Mark… et all… Stay Tuned…

Adding more detail parts to dress up the Gon. Next Up: Add some “Bolts” to hold it all together. I was given a can of thousands of round head 3/4" brass coated nails, any similar pin would work. I believe that these were originally used for Crafters “String Art” Popular in the 80-90s.

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I then cut them down to about 1/4" long using standard side cutters.

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I pre-drilled pilot holes for the nail heads, careful not to drill completely thru the side posts. Drill the holes staggered from each other, two nail heads per side board.

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Put a very small bit of CA on each drilled hole, Use a pair of very small needle nose pliers and carefully insert the nail into the hole.

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If you are intending to leave the Gon “convertible” to a flat, Then add 2 nail heads glued at the bottom of each vertical support, so it looks like they were bolted to the side rails. If you are wanting to permanently attach the Sides to the car, With the sides in place, Drill the Pilot holes through the vertical supports and all the way thru side beams. Insert uncut nails clear thru and bend over the protruding ends. Adding “Cut Levers”. The Cut Levers on the NMN RR are all double sided and they work, so as to make Opps easer. I bend them from common 12 gage copper household wire that I have stripped off the insulation. You can pick up tons of it at any home construction site after the electricians have wired the house (ask first). Easy to bend to your desired shape of cut rods. To attach to the car I cut down Cotter Pins, to about 1/4" to 3/8" “Tail” after the head.

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I pre-drill the mounting holes for the cut down cotter pins. I use 4 per rod, 2 inner fairly close to the center extension, and 2 at the outer ends to keep down the free play.

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Slip the cut down pins onto the “Cut Rod” there should be plenty of “Looseness”

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Add a drop of CA to each hole, and fiddle and fit the pins into each hole, Make sure that no CA glues the rod down by working it several times, this also aligns the Pins to the need of the rods movement.

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Final detail, We will add a Ozark Miniatures Brake Handle and ratchet pawl. I drill out the center of the pawl and into the end beam to better support the vertical post. I mounted the handle below the top of the end board to better protect from damage and harm.

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Touch up painted the detail parts to match NMN RR Standard scheme. The GON is pretty much done, to my everyday standards.

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I’ll cut some vinyl letters and car numbers to finnish up and a decal of the logo.