Large Scale Central

Shermans Valley Railway

Kevin, I have nothing to base any of the equipment off of. Where did you find anything on the Perry lumber Co.? I’m thinking of losing Newport to the PRR, and making a connection to the Path Valley railroad.via the tunnel. The tunnel will be end of the western run but will allow loop-dee-loop running(to please Fred) With such a short rail road I’ll have to leave out much.

I’m thinking eastward> tunnel> logging branch> Blain >Kreider’s Mill>Elliottsburg (Maybe the standard gauge crossing?) but I could use some help. Any is appreciated.

The only thing I’ve seen in print on the Perry Lumber Co. is from Kline’s PA logging series. It’s got all of one page on the line, though its info on the Climax is either in error or they owned two Climaxes. Kline states Perry Lumber Co. #215 was a 30-ton Climax, and that was their only loco. However, Climax records show them getting Climax #265, which was a 25-ton Climax. The entry for #215 says “unknown.”

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/EKWV265/EKWV26501.jpg)

Here’s Perry Lumber Co. #265 on the East Kansas & Waterton Valley (which came off of the Tuscarora RR).

Gotta love that lettering!

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/EKWV265/EKWV26503.jpg)

Here’s mine so far. All of the physical changes are done, though it needs a proper coal load and weathering.

In terms of the N&SV locomotives, it would take a bit of kitbashing, but they’re doable. They ran a few 4-4-0s which could be done from Bachmann’s loco. #2 would almost work straight out of the box; #5 would need a new boiler and cab, similar to how I modified B’mann’s 2-6-0 for TRR #2. N&SV #6 would be the bugger, since it rode on 48" drivers. When I can finally source 48" drivers, I’ll let you know. On the other hand, #7 could be done from a B’mann 4-6-0 chassis, converted into a 2-6-0. It’s got a funky Belpaire firebox on it which would almost certainly be a conversation piece.

Later,

K

Kevin,

You’ve got a screw loose (between the tracks). :slight_smile: BTW, nice job on the Climax.

Marc

http://www.dauphincountyhistory.org/research/photos/weeklyphoto/42

http://portroyal200.com/view.php?id=641

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_Valley_Railroad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Lumber

http://www.penntownship.net/index.php/history/

http://civilwar.gratzpa.org/2012/02/lykens-valley-railroad-at-millersburg/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pennsylvania_Railroad

That one is interesting^^^^^

I’ll also have to dig through my books at home as I may have a book on the Perry County RR’s

It’s almost endless info this is why I quit searching

Good Luck!

:wink:

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Very nice work. I want to make a curved trestle next year but it won’t have to be nearly as tall.

Marc, that trestle is splendid. Keep the photos coming as you keep on building.

Thanks all. Thanks for the info, too. I have a new 4-4-0 stashed away that I was going to sell. Maybe I will keep it now although I was planning on the 1930’s.

I built another section of trestle(6 ft). This one went faster and I kept things straight. I might place it tomorrow if its not too cold. We might get frost. I have to add the walk ways and fire barrels. I don’t think I’ll add guard rail though.

yea, what they all said…:wink:

OK…I’m taking a deep breath here cause I got sucked into something I didn’t need to know!

If you can score the book “Bells & Whistles in Old Perry” it may answer a lot of questions. I asked an old guy for a little info and got more than expected.

According to this book #265 was a 30 ton Climax and when Perry Lumber ordered it they failed to specify a road number. So in accordance with factory practice the engine was given the construction serial # which in this case was 265. She also got her name from a poem by “Mrs. Marian Dix Sullivan” called the “Blue Juniata” The first lines read “Wild roved an Indian Girl , Bright Alfarata”.

Kevin in the picture I have she had a funnel stack. I’ll have to get this posted up for you later. (its a rearward shot of the other side )

David Russell said:

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OK…I’m taking a deep breath here cause I got sucked into something I didn’t need to know!

“LoL”

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But… got to say… very good train inform… tk’s David.

I had forgotten about that book! It’s now on my Christmas list.

The 25-ton weight I mentioned comes from www.climaxlocomotives.com, which appears to have sourced their data from company records. Either way, when you look at the specs for a 25-ton vs a 30-ton Climax, there’s so little difference between the two that using the B’mann 25-ton as a starting point will yield a perfectly accurate 30-ton model as well. The biggest difference between the B’mann model and PLCo. #265 is the boiler. Bachmann’s model has a wagontop boiler, where the PLCo loco has a straight boiler.

The stack on mine is based on a photo of the loco after it was sold to the East Waterford Lumber Co. The EWLCo. connected with the Tuscarora Valley at East Waterford. I hate having to scratchbuild funnel stacks, so this photo saved me a ton of work! By all accounts I’ve read, the loco kept its Perry Lumber Co. lettering while running out of East Waterford. (And who can blame them? It’s cool lettering!)

BTW, I’m working on seeing what it would cost to have Shapeways print and cast proper 48" drivers for me. I’ll let y’all know how that pans out. Mine will be for EBT #5, but they’ll work for N&SV #6 as well.

Later,

K

AWESOME! Still looking for the book. Re-named Narrow Guage in the Sherman’s Valley.

Thank you.

Marc

I used to small game hunt a lot in that area

Edit for proper spelling and punk chew ation…

Grab them pics Marc and once again thanks for sucking me into something I didn’t need to know!

I’ll be in my corner!

Marc Bergmueller said:

I lived at Centre Presbyterian Church outside of Loysville along the right of way.

Rooster knows; Loysville had an oil dealer that owned two tank cars!

If you look under the “E” in Perry on the first map, I lived in Centre. I remember when you could still go in the mouth of the tunnel. Part of the Buckeye pipeline(oil) was north of our house.

There is too much to model. I got my “pointless” roundy round completed today and ran the shay around. I’m working on smoothing out the grades and hiding some of the elevated section with schrubbery. If I can find some. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvsGdJP3ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvsGdJP3ng

LMAO!

Not a damn thing wrong with Roundy Round!

I model Amtrash!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xR4TZsZOPU&ob=av2n

BTW…You,your,you’re thread …if I’m out of control just corner me as most do!

I wanna see build and progress pics!

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Marc Bergmueller said:

AWESOME! Still looking for the book. Re-named Narrow Guage in the Sherman’s Valley.

Thank you.

Nope not the same book …bend over if you find the book in good condition!

Wait …Library of Congress catalog # 74-79065

My corner is cleaned up quite nicely!

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Still looking for page 3 so I can justify jacking up your thread on page 2 Marc!

One just went to auction in Marysville OCT12th. Not that I could have bid. I will be passing through over Thanksgiving on my way to New Colombia. I remember some old book sellers along the way.

That contraption won’t fit around my waist