Yep, tomorrow will roll around … and what will be the topic the day after?
I hope something important like Climate Change.
Unfortunately it will likely be “we was robbed”. Those dirty rotten … stole the election what with all their lies.
I’ll celebrate the end of Silly Season, but no doubt whoever wins, the other side will cry for weeks how they were robbed of the election.
The most interesting part of the USA Presidential Election is that a candidate can win an overwhelming majority of the popular vote but fail to capture enough electoral votes to be elected. That’s why it is still way too close to call.
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:The lame ducks. Ralph
Yep, tomorrow will roll around ..... and what will be the topic the day after?
I’ll be very glad when it’s finally over, either way
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:How about the "Gunpowder Plot"?
Yep, tomorrow will roll around ..... and what will be the topic the day after?
(For those that are not familiar with the subject http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night ).
While we’ve got all these guns and ammo laying around, how about discussing LGB again? :lol:
Hey Victor.
I thought the all guns were going to be confiscated after Nov 4th. 
I’m not a gun advocate by any means, but the odds of that ever happening in this country are about the the same as Selma Hayak falling from the sky onto my lap and declaring “You are the one for me”…somewhere around infinity minus one to one against.
I feel real sorry for any politician or group that ever tries something like that, beleive me when I say, Tony, you have no idea how many guns there are in this country…legal and illegal.
I can’t remember where I read it but there was a story from WW2. In the very early planning stages of the offensive againt America, their were plan studies by the Army to physicaly invade the west coast and attempt to occupy it to the Sierra’s and maybe to the Rockies, the High Command beleived they could just walk in and take over against an un-armed and docile peasant civilian population like they had in Manchuria and Korea, that was until the officers who had actually lived in the US managed to convince the Japanese High Command that it would be practically impossible to do this, due to the propensity of Americans to own guns and that particularly American instinct to defend their property. They warned every city block would be a Fortress, every town a Battleground, every house a Bunker and that they would not be fighting troops but armed civilians, they would be in a protracted civil insurrection before they got very far inland. The arguement worked, the Japanese HC didnt want to face an armed and angry cilivian population that would act as an underground army killing troops and sabatoging their efforts from behind the lines. In the end the very long logistics of a protracted invasion combined with the very real possibility of a bloody occupation for their troops ended any real plans for invading the west coast. What the Japanese envisioned in America the Germans learned in France and Russia.
Vic, I hadn’t heard that, but do not doubt it being true.
Not only were the citizens armed (some with automatic weapons) but by and large, the 40-somethings were veterans of Big I and the Banana Wars of the 20’s and early 30’s.
Plus, the Vets were organized through the various Veterans organizations. I don’t think that any invader would stand much of a chance, then or now.
Victor Smith said:..........and the USA (along with the coalition of the willing) has sadly found out to its cost in Iraq.
SNIP I can't remember where I read it but there was a story from WW2. In the very early planning stages of the offensive againt America, their were plan studies by the Army to physicaly invade the west coast and attempt to occupy it to the Sierra's and maybe to the Rockies, the High Command beleived they could just walk in and take over against an un-armed and docile peasant civilian population like they had in Manchuria and Korea, that was until the officers who had actually lived in the US managed to convince the Japanese High Command that it would be practically impossible to do this, due to the propensity of Americans to own guns and that particularly American instinct to defend their property. They warned every city block would be a Fortress, every town a Battleground, every house a Bunker and that they would not be fighting troops but armed civilians, they would be in a protracted civil insurrection before they got very far inland. The arguement worked, the Japanese HC didnt want to face an armed and angry cilivian population that would act as an underground army killing troops and sabatoging their efforts from behind the lines. In the end the very long logistics of a protracted invasion combined with the very real possibility of a bloody occupation for their troops ended any real plans for invading the west coast. What the Japanese envisioned in America the Germans learned in France and Russia.
You would think those smart politicians who started this latest foray would learn from history.
“What the Japanese envisioned in America the Germans learned in France and Russia.”
You know, I think my Grandfathers would be highly insulted being compared to the French or Russians.
“…and the USA (along with the coalition of the willing) has sadly found out to its cost in Iraq.”
Like Vietnam, we have also had to fight our own Congress and a portion of our population. I don’t think anyone that is not an American should ever believe that the U.S. Soldier could not have ended this “dust up” quickly and completely. Our biggest enemy has always been within our own borders.
Ric Golding said:
"What the Japanese envisioned in America the Germans learned in France and Russia."You know, I think my Grandfathers would be highly insulted being compared to the French or Russians.
“…and the USA (along with the coalition of the willing) has sadly found out to its cost in Iraq.”
Like Vietnam, we have also had to fight our own Congress and a portion of our population. I don’t think anyone that is not an American should ever believe that the U.S. Soldier could not have ended this “dust up” quickly and completely. Our biggest enemy has always been within our own borders.
Amen, brother
TonyWalsham said:
Hey Victor.I thought the all guns were going to be confiscated after Nov 4th.
Tony,
You must be kidding, it would be easier to collect all the brains instead! :lol:
Ric Golding said:
"What the Japanese envisioned in America the Germans learned in France and Russia."You know, I think my Grandfathers would be highly insulted being compared to the French or Russians.
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Why? were they fighting for other side?
So, you’re saying you find the patriotism, sacrific, and tenacity of the French Resisitance against the Nazi’s insulting? And putting the communist ideology aside, have you ever really studied just what the Russians went thru in the struggle to defeat the greatest enemy of Western Civilization who devistated their nation among many and murdered millions?
Interesting…
Remember, it was the Russian historicaly that were the ones who defeated the majority of the German land forces in their expulsion of the nazi invasion forces and in the final offensive against Berlin, for the most part the Allied forces after the Bulge faced sparcer resistance than they expected, the bulk of if having been sent to the eastern front to hold back the Red war machine. The nazies feared the Allies, but the Russians absolutely terrified them becuase they knew the reds were going to pay back every atrocity the nazis had perpetrated on the Russians. Its important to remember, when the nazis finally surrendered, they did everything they could to make sure it was to the Allies, not the Reds, because after the barbaric ways the nazis and the SS had treated the Russian population and POWs, they knew they would recieve no mercy from the Russians. The Russians were determined to permanently erase any notion of the nazi “Master Race”.
…and then soon after, the whole World was buying VW, Mercedes Benz & BWM cars. Not to forget Maerklin and LGB Trains.
Sad to say Victor, that Nazism has not been completely eradicated. It is still alive and well all over the World. Just goes under other names nowadays.
BTW. That is an opinion so I don’t have to prove any of it although I personally saw proof that Nazi worship was still alive and well at the 1992 Nuremberg Toy Fair. I even had a Large Scale catalogue with a Nazi swatsika on a couple of pages with another well know logo on the same pages.
Victor,
You said - "Why? were they fighting for other side? "
Of course not, I just don’t believe any of my ancestors would enjoy being compared to French or Russian people. Mostly Scotch/Irish with a little German, no French or Russian in the blood line.
It was based on the tone of your answer, I had to ask Ric.
After studying WW2 I have nothing but respect for what the French people managed to do against a powerful monster and their own puppet government, same for the Soviets, when you see what utter hell the Russian people went through during WW2, the struggle and determination, in spite of even their own governments failings, to defeat the Germans, some of those stories make me shutter to think about it even now.
Courage and Heroism should always be respected, regardless of whether it was French or Russian.
Perhaps y’all will recall just how much of a debt of gratitude the USA owes to France and Russia in the formation of the USA.
If it had not been for French support against the British, maybe the War of Independence would not have been successful.
The French did sell the South for a song with the Louisianna purchase and donated that symbol of freedom, the Statue of Liberty.
The French recently offered some sage advice to hang back from invading Iraq. That advice was ignored and Obama has now inherited that mess.
What did Russia contribute? Alaska for virtually nothing.
Oh!!! and BTW thank the UK for Hawaii.
