" Rooster " said:
Shawn Viggiano said:
Nicolas Teeuwen said:
Where do people mostly find used stuff? In looking for used I have seen some on ebay and other places. Of course for me, msot of the used stuff I would be looking for would be track.
If you have facebook G scale swap and shop is a great source with great deals all the time. They seem to have lots of USA and Aristo stuff.
Thats nice Shawn but I already have you on my wall and throw darts at it every night!
Shut up Rooster. If you had FB you would see all my double rainbow pictures.
Nicolas Teeuwen said:
Shawn Viggiano said:
Nicolas Teeuwen said:
Where do people mostly find used stuff? In looking for used I have seen some on ebay and other places. Of course for me, msot of the used stuff I would be looking for would be track.
If you have facebook G scale swap and shop is a great source with great deals all the time. They seem to have lots of USA and Aristo stuff.
I do have Facebook and found the Uk one…but I am states side.
Their is a state side one as well. Try the link Steve provided.
Pete Lassen said:
so the guy on the right looks like a neighbor and I am guessing is Rooster the guy on the left I am guessing is Shawn.
Shady charactors those 2.
Haha very shady and dont believe a thing they say. The one on the right likes double rainbows.
I go thru Zionsville Train Depot here in Indiana. They deal in mostly all used and estate items in all scales with a focus on G and LGB. Just bought a 2019s Mogul there this last week. The stock on hand is constantly changing and do not go by just what the thier website shows. He probably has 3-4 times that in stock in various scales and brands. There is a whole collection of LGB thats not on there, mostly European freight and passenger cars, but a few USA prototypes as well, along with early production(yellow box) models. I know he has 3 moguls in stock, 2119d bumblebee, the PRR version and a 1 of 12 special early DRGW done from the 2018d by the factory. Mike
Two things, The Revolution is not dead, it was sold to someone else, before Louis /Naven shut it down. You will see them again soon. Second, don’t be surprised if you See new things coming from Aristo molds, and where not talking the cheap stuff. Who knows Dash Nine SD-45 ? You mite be surprised. Biggest thing is if they show up, so will all the repair parts !
Rex, I hope you are right.
I have always suspected that there is too much potential profit in those molds and jigs to just let them suck dust for too long.
I am right, I don’t post rumors ! I post facts. Just not all my sources.
Rex, I didn’t say you were wrong, nor that you were rumor mongering.
Like I said, I thought there was just too much money in them molds to let them sit. I figured the line would be resurrected, at least in part. Its just that I was way off on time-frames.
As F. Ross Johnson once said…Rumors are facts that haven’t happened yet!
That will be interesting to see what happens. I have long suspected Kader might have deliberately had things difficult for the Polk’s so they could expand into the 1/29 market but the recession thru that plan into a tizzy. The fact that they deliberately screwed over other long time clients in the smaller scales not that long ago by cancelling their contracts showed that the Chinese masters had no moral difficulty reneging on their contract obligations if it’s to their advantage. The reintroduction of the Eggliner is the first confirmation of this move to reuse the molds Aristo had contracted. Just me thinking out loud here.
Bob Frein said:
As F. Ross Johnson once said…Rumors are facts that haven’t happened yet!
Once, while bobbing around the Indian Ocean, no one seemed to know where our next port of call was going to be, even the well plugged in sources.
I decided to take matters in hand, and start a self-fullfilling prophecy. I planted the seed by telling three carefully selected people, “I heard that we are going to Pattaya Beach, Thailand.” Then I shut up.
Within three days, the word came down, we were going to Pattaya.
The power of the well placed rumor is amazing.
Bachmann owns all the Aristo Molds ! Anyone notice the egg liners by Bachmann. That’s just the beginning !
Rex yes. We know that Kader owns the molds, and owns Bachmann. And I think many of us were/are hoping that the egg-liner is just the beginning.
Since Bachmann is coming out with the eggliners, then does that mean that Bachmann doesn’t have to buy (and sell) the NOS that Aristo didn’t pay for? That was part of what was killing Scott, was those containers of stock he had to take, whether he wanted them or not. Or, did he take them all, and so there aren’t any left over there in China?
Just wondering.
David I was told by a source I consider very reliable that these new Eggliners are supposed to have a new drive block, likely the same as the Speeders get, we won’t know for certain until someone gets one and had a looksie inside. This person also told me the main reason Kader is releasing them is purely financial, they sell well and given they are currently only offered in holiday schemes should suggest at which market they are aiming for (non-serious mass as possible market iows Thomas crowd) Kader wants income. I hope they also release the tight circle track AC did for the Eggies.
I would be VERY surprised if the eggliner has a different motor block, why design something new for a low cost loco if the old one was fine?
This is not a big ticket item and I find it very hard to believe that someone would fix something that is not broke.
The K-LINE speeder, recently sold by USAT is 1:32, and is way too small for the eggliner, size and wheelbase and wheel diameter.
Kader owns the molds, and Bachmann. Kader, not Bachmann will decide who can buy what. Clearly Kader can DIRECT Bachmann to do whatever it wants.
Also, it’s not clear what “excess” is left of the old Aristo stuff Lewis ordered and never paid for.
It will be fun to see what transpires.
Greg
Greg, to design a new block doesn’t make sense. But to use a less expensive (read cheaper) block from say the Bachmann trolley would make sense, if they are trying to pinch pennies. And who isn’t?
I thought the PCCs were the excess. I wasn’t sure/didn’t know, if there was more excess or not.
Now, for the 64,000 dollar question. Would Kader have Bachmann sell the Aristo track, when Bachmann has its own line of track? That don’t make sense to me. But, some of us out here want the Aristo Stainless track, to go with the Aristo stainless we already have.
Ahh, track was never made by Kader as far as I know… I am sure the rails were not. The ties are injection molded, but I heard that they were not made at Kader either.
The LGB suit that almost bankrupted Aristo was an influence, i.e. Aristo had the molds for the ties themselves, the rail is rolled and put through dies. In China, entire cities are devoted to one type of manufacture, so it is “easy” to shop within those cities for who will do the metalwork the cheapest.
Another corollary is Crest Electronics, made a separate company early on, again around the LGB suit, Aristo learned the danger of putting all the eggs in one basket, and Korea was the major location of manufacture for some time, as well as China. The lead engineer Mr. Song is Korean.
So the track manufacture is independent of Kader as far as we cal all determine, which also explains how there was a new track shipment from Polks GeneratioNext when the only locos/rolling stock he could get was old stock.
Again, this is the best we can piece together from multiple sources, I could be wrong here.
By the the way, the eggliner motor block is tough and reasonably good. The Bachmann trolley and the Aristo PCC motor blocks are pretty much crap, very small cheap motors. Also the wheel diameters are pretty small, so I cannot see how they are candidates for the eggliner.
But, I could be wrong, so let’s see what happens. The best result is that they sell ex-Aristo product, and get some success and sell some more.
Greg
David,
Aristo Track, Rail Joiners and Wheels were made by a different supplier, they were not manufactured by KADER. With that being said, I would hope Bachmann would make more stainless track as I am very glad that when I started, I switched to Stainless.
Sorry, did not see Greg’s post, before I posted, redundant info.
Nico, I was not aware Bachmann made stainless track, was I asleep at the switch? (when you said more, it implies they made it at some time).
Or did you mean you hope that Bachmann would take up the manufacture of SS LS track (for the first time)?
Thanks, Greg