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Rossean Hotel

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#21

Steve,

From the online forum searches that I did a few years back it seems that the way the blade and handle interface comes together it allows the knife blade to wander a bit.

Yes I’ve tried new blades, old blades, rotating the cutting base, everything it seems, but I still get inconsistent results. I’ve cut thin 0.010" to 1/4" thick styrene and it seems to exhibit the same problem. As I said before it is not noticeable in the thinner pieces, but manifests itself much greater in the thicker pieces.

Here’s a couple of threads…

http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=243886

http://www.zealot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98930

http://www.mylargescale.com/Community/Forums/tabid/56/aff/24/aft/125005/afv/topic/Default.aspx

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234911277-nwsl-chopper-blade-deflection/

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/152000.aspx

Craig

#22

That fire escape is great!

I hope you have plenty of cheese on hand for your helpers. Some nice Wensleydale would be good.

#23

Bruce, et al,

I have added a couple of PDFs to my web site that some might find helpful. Many years ago I did some professional modeling and was introduced to a company called Engineering Model Associates. I later learned that they were the parent company for Plastruct. I have not done that kind of modeling in many years, but about 4 years ago I had the occasion to look for them. It appears that in the ensuing years Plastruct now seems to be the parent. I did discover that all the EMA parts are still available (or so I was told at the time). I have made PDFs of the catalog and a 2009 price list.

http://www.gscalejunkie.com/GeneralPics/CatchAll/EMA_Price_List_2009.pdf

http://www.gscalejunkie.com/GeneralPics/CatchAll/EMA_Product_Catalog_1979.pdf

Hope this will work for some of you who do mostly ‘plastic’ modeling. Not that that is a bad thing, I just prefer wood.

Bob C

#24

Chester Louis said:

Craig

“I like my chopper II but have found that it does not cut exactly at 90 degrees. The blade as it starts to cut starts to lean to the left or right (it’s not consistent), and the result is that the cut piece is no longer square.”

How thick a piece are you trying to cut?

The thickness you are trying to cut at a 90 degree is the key to the accuracy the Chopper II cuts (as stated thickness hampers it’s ability)

#25

I put it all together this morning, and I do like how it turned out.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/Structures/RosseanHotel/IMG_0715.JPG)

I added a light over the door, and a clear lens for the power meter casting.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/Structures/RosseanHotel/IMG_0716.JPG)

I’ll have to admit, I think the fire escape is really cool. I’ve been wanting to do one ever since David Marconi did his. I think it really adds a lot of character to the building.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/Structures/RosseanHotel/IMG_0717.JPG)

I liked it so much, I thought it might be cool to have a full building for my downtown, but I fear it would over power the town!

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/Structures/RosseanHotel/IMG_0710.JPG)

#26

Bruce, that came out great…

The 3 story building seems like it would over-power the other town’s buildings but, maybe a 2-story building would be better suited with a narrow front side, like the width of the buildings directly behind that fascade…

#27

NICE!!

Can we see the front?

:wink:

#28

that is really something!

with this quality of backgroundbuildings it will be hard to make a foreground that gets noticed.

#29

Thank you for the plug Bruce. Nice build and I like the fire escape too. It adds a lot of character to a plain palette.Nicely done.

As far as one for the town, I think if you move it to the right of the bush in the pic, a three story hotel will wind up framing the town as opposed to detracting from it. IMHO

#30

Bruce Chandler said:

I liked it so much, I thought it might be cool to have a full building for my downtown, but I fear it would over power the town!

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/Structures/RosseanHotel/IMG_0710.JPG)

Great job, Bruce.

I agree with Hollywood. You have plenty of space in town.

Towns have buildings of all sizes.

I think it would “add” to the town, not over power it.

Being a tall structure, I would place it where it would block an undesireable background view :wink:

#31

Ralph Berg said:

Bruce Chandler said:

I liked it so much, I thought it might be cool to have a full building for my downtown, but I fear it would over power the town!

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/Structures/RosseanHotel/IMG_0710.JPG)

Great job, Bruce.

I agree with Hollywood. You have plenty of space in town.

Towns have buildings of all sizes.

I think it would “add” to the town, not over power it.

Being a tall structure, I would place it where it would block an undesireable background view :wink:

Bruce… Instead of a shorter (2 story) version, you might consider a narrower 3 story version, say 30 scale feet. I believe you said that was 50 scale feet…

#32

Bruce Chandler said:

A while back, Doug Matheson (from Canada) and I discussed some building flats that would be positioned on the side of his shed. I offered to build the Rossean Hotel and I’m hoping to have it complete by ECLSTS.

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I guess I really can read and absorb sometimes

:wink:

#33

Holy Crap …Did I actually pay attention for once!!!

#34

David Russell said:

Holy Crap …Did I actually pay attention for once!!!

I can’t…Doug said the name is Rosseau Hotel…not sure where I got the “N” from… :wink:

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. I’ve got a few other projects before I do another large building…

#35

Bruce,

Great build !! I love the fire escape, the detail is wonderful.

As for a three story on the layout, you already have one (upper right in the photo). I do agree that a bit narrower would be better.

A small note of constructive commentary. The diagonals knee braces would have some plates to distribute the load to the wall. Single or possibly two bolts, usually below the angle.

Bob C

#36

That looks so great, I may actually try to tackle a fire escape for one of my buildings.

#37

question:

since what era do you have fire escapes in the states?

#38

Korm Kormsen said:

question:

since what era do you have fire escapes in the states?

Interesting question! I did find a thesis on the web and it stated that in 1860 the Department of Buildings first ordered the erection of fire escapes on tenement houses in NY city. He mentions a 70 year heyday for these types of escapes, taking them to about 1930 or so. Some speculate that the beginning of the end of fire escapes came with the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in 1911. A lot of improvements in building construction made the fire escape obsolete.

Also, the exterior type fire escapes have many huge shortcomings: Fires come out windows in floors below the one you’re on. They invite traffic jams. The final ladder, raised above street-level to thwart thieves, very often jams when you reach it. And, despite that ladder, fire escapes can provide unwanted access into buildings.

Of course they still exist on many buildings, but many are in states of disrepair.

#39

thank you, Bruce!

#40

Nice looking building! Great work, as usual.

-Kevin.