No, you don’t want it in print.
The person in question has bots that search the internet for references to him or his domains, and is prepared to take action if he feels it necessary.
Why do you think we called it LySOL for so many years?
He hadn’t trained his bots to look for that, and boy, was he mad when he found out we’d all been talking behind his back.
So, make a call, get what you need VERBALLY, never, ever in print.
I don’t know if anybody has noticed but much of the publicity coming out of Aristo-Craft, some of it important, is now increasingly only available at LySOL. Don’t know why and that is an arrangement that angers me. Lewis has usually been fairly open about company information but the trend suggests that he is now willing to have it monopolized by a forum webmaster with questionable motives and practices. LySOL? Never, I’ll get the needed info from you guys or from other forums that do not hesitate to post useful information.
Mike,
The owner of the group that is mentioned was one of the first start up sites. Before that all we had were listservs and email groups and they were pretty antiquated. This was right after the dinosours fell for the global warming thing. Many, many of us were members. He took it upon himself to make it a full time job. Didn’t really work out how it was first set up, so he offered good deals for our support of him and his business for a number of years. The longer you paid for, the better deal you get. The business got into a fight with the publishers of Model Railroader and boom one morning, the site was down and he was gone. It was Summer time and I’m going to say around 2000. Anyway, we were very incapable of recreating communication with each other because of the newness of the internet and for many of us the oldness of ourselves. Over a couple of weeks, we all made communication on spring up groups like this one, on a private club site and many business sites. That business in quesiton came back as a pay to see site. But he had hurt a lot of feelings. He made a deal with a number of businesses and is now very visible at many of the large scale train shows. Some have buried the hatchet and some have not. Try it if you wish. The biggest thing that was learned was to get on lots of sites, so if one goes down, for whatever reason, you can find a place to figure out what is going on and what you are going to do.
There was mucho nashing of teeth as all this was going on.
It’s a hobby, we are suppose to be having fun. This is a fun site. But we all have to be respectful of Bob and the work he puts in to resolving our problems and desires.
Thanks, that’s very clear
Yes, to all the above. But if you think St Aubins Station will reply to an Email. forget it. After 8 emails inquiring about the Aristo C-16 I give up. They do know how to press the REPLY button without help. And with return policy being 20% for restocking, why bother to buy from them? I joined this group because there wasn’t a fee for finding out about free information. I think the dude just wants to team up with a bigger outfit to insure his pseudo-business will stay afloat as well as legitimize what he has. I thought the6 page deal was ridiculous and am sure customers will foot the bill. Having the four page ads was the best they could do for advertising. Putting it in the LSOL website is stupid marketing. I speak 12th grade English mostly because I teach 6-12th grade shop and believe its all you really need. Patrick.
I had a previous experience with the afore mentioned retail outlet last year. I was hot to spend about $400+ and the owner himself told me email was NOT a good way to get ahold of them, or get anything done quickly. I talked verbally with the owner about a specific NEW product, and was told it would be in in the next two days, and after theyre techs had tested the item he would let me know what the results were! Needless to say by the time they got back to me, after me calling the aforesaid time frame several times, I had the item purchased and it was up and running for a week on my r.r. Hence I am kind of hesitant to deal with them again. There are other less expensive places to deal with, so buyer beware!
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patrick beres said:Welcome Patrick,
Yes, to all the above. But if you think St Aubins Station will reply to an Email. forget it. After 8 emails inquiring about the Aristo C-16 I give up. They do know how to press the REPLY button without help. And with return policy being 20% for restocking, why bother to buy from them? I joined this group because there wasn't a fee for finding out about free information. I think the dude just wants to team up with a bigger outfit to insure his pseudo-business will stay afloat as well as legitimize what he has. I thought the6 page deal was ridiculous and am sure customers will foot the bill. Having the four page ads was the best they could do for advertising. Putting it in the LSOL website is stupid marketing. I speak 12th grade English mostly because I teach 6-12th grade shop and believe its all you really need. Patrick.
You’ll fit right in, many of us are still stuck at Grade 6-12 level and doing just fine. In some cases the raging hormones have subsided, in others … wellllll … hard to tell. 
PS make sure they get to graduation with all fingers still attached!
Jerry Hansen said:
I had a previous experience with the afore mentioned retail outlet last year. I was hot to spend about $400+ and the owner himself told me email was NOT a good way to get ahold of them, or get anything done quickly. I talked verbally with the owner about a specific NEW product, and was told it would be in in the next two days, and after they techs had tested the item he would let me know what the results were! Needless to say by the time they got back to me, after me calling the aforesaid time frame several times, I had the item purchased and it was up and running for a week on my r.r. Hence I am kind of hesitant to deal with them again. There are other less expensive places to deal with, so buyer beware!(http://www.lscdata.com/users/blueregal/_forumfiles/image0011.gif)
Jerry Hansen… That just about sizes it up on both St. Aubins and LySOL . Love the file transfer… We were by request of a Mfg. to be on a LySOL. Calendar for Feb. a few yrs back and was given a bad time that I did not re-new with ( LySOL ) them… They didn’t have anything I needed that I couldn’t get off of other no paid sites. We don’t mine help out by joining a Group if it dose some good for us. Noel & Jane.
You know guy’s i’ve been thinking on this post for the last few days, and I have also come up with this little tidbit! I like to consider myself somewhat of a salesman, have been in the business here and there since 74. I realized another take on this partnership between you know who and you know who. Think of the amazing selling job party 1 did to get party 2 to go into partnership with him!!! Musta been one hell of a sales job considering eh? That or party #2 had not heard or listened to the electronic circle of trainpeople, maybe wears blinders, or is hard of hearing! Whadda you think??? hee hee hee hee!!! Now the real selling job comes convincing potential customers to take the plunge and go blindly where others have gone before. The Regal
You lead the way Regal, we watch what happens. We don’t mind seeing one more sap getting what’s coming to him. Hehehehe
no thanx you first HJ The Regal
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For those of you who don’t recognize the picture, it is one I posted some time ago on MLS of an abandoned stretch of the Copper River & Northwestern Railway near Stelna, mile 146 (also abandoned), probably taken about 1955. What you are looking at is the result of uneven permafrost melt–the single greatest obstacle to railroad construction in the interior of Alaska. --Ron in CC AK
looks like some places out here in my “yard”…
Upon further reflection, it is bad publicity all the way around, for our club and myself, so I took it upon myself to delete my posts.
