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David,
I went back over the entire thread and at no point did any one insult you. Many took you to task and challenged your stated viewpoints. You raised the points and yet feign that you have been insulted in response to their challenges. One person claimed an insult as to his credibility and one person claimed insult to criticism of his religious belief. Many times you personally insulted those who challenged your viewpoints. Look over the thread and tell me where at any point you received personal criticism that made you feel an association with the disgust that someone’s mother had been called a whore. If anything, we should take offence to your many comments and innuendo.

     Following is a compilation of your negative responses (other than challenging anothers response as to your statements).  As you have challenged others on their beliefs,  so you have been challenged.  We were not insulted with your challenges,  but your comments, as below,  were not entirely christian.  I have highlighted the date that the comment was made,  to make it easier to authenticate.

***February 6th - "Not to be insulting, but why are so many of the man-is-a-plague-upon-the-Earth crowd all from outside the USA? Is it jealousy? Hatred of US lifestyle?

Since the US is a large consumer by virtue of our free-market republican society, we seem to be the bully to the world. Fine we’ll keep our technology and foreign aid, and ya’ll can deal with your own tsunamis, earthquakes and terrorists.

I am a bit tired of being blamed for all the world’s ills."

***February 6th “I can only assume you guys are just “jerking my chain”. I honestly can not imagine anyone with the ability to read and with the intelligence above a gnat would believe the man-made global warming thing, or that the globe is overpopulated or that the counter intelligence services of a half dozen countries all conspired the story about Iraq’s development of WMD’s and Saddam’s genocide.”

You do not mind insulting one’s beliefs here -

***February 6th “On and on a side note, I didn’t say anything about the absurdity of the theory of evolution, but I guess I did now.”

***February 10th “At the risk of feeding into your sarcastic closed-mindedness, I will repeat a theory I wrote earlier on the long lifespans as recorded in Genesis.”

Here you are entirely hypocritical as it is you, yourself who gets nasty when challenged -

***February 12th "Here here Ralph. Some folks, when having their beliefs challenged, get nasty.

Ps.1 The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works,
there is none that doeth good.

Pro:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly,lest thou also be like unto him.
Pro:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit."

***February 14th " (Maybe we have pigs as ancestors, which would explain a lot.)"

You are entirely hypocritical in this point as the entire thread is you insulting others’ beliefs -

***February 14th “You may have faith in Darwin if you choose. I may point of the fallacy of such belief, but I would never personally insult you in the way you choose to insult millions of Christians, smoe of whom are our greatest scientists, Patriots and inventors.”

Exactly what insults did you receive other than challenges to points that you raised yourself ?-

February 18th “Some of the questions I thought were sincere and not just an attempt to insult or discredit my faith. Others sounded … Let me put it this way, if I called your loving mother a whore, without having even met her, you would most likely be justifiably angered and upset by my remarks.”

As stated earlier, where can you find a personal insult directed towards you? You challenged others beliefs and considered it christian to insult them in reply and yet, when you are challenged you show your true character.

David,
your final comment as quoted in the above posting, on February 18th was a doozy -

Quote: "February 18th “Some of the questions I thought were sincere and not just an attempt to insult or discredit my faith. Others sounded … Let me put it this way, if I called your loving mother a whore, without having even met her, you would most likely be justifiably angered and upset by my remarks.”

You were not content with the calling someone’s mother a whore, but you had to add this little titbit - Quote: “…without having even met her,…” I doubt that a true christian would make such a comment about another’s mother, even if he did know her chosen occupation. 26 pages, to date and not one redeeming feature on your character and you believe yourself a god-fearing christian. After your comments to date, I would suggest a little more god-fearing and less criticism of those around you.

Again you are misreading my post. I know there are some on this forum that English is not their native language, so I can understand some of my writing being misread. (One word I used a while back was interpreted as "insinuate or insult when that was not even close)

Tim, you may be either not reading what I wrote accurately, or English is your second language. I apologize for my word usage and syntax, not meaning to deliberately confound the reader.

All the past two post and ranting was because you thought I said some here are calling my mother a whore. If you read again I believe I was clear that some here were insulting my God that I love in the same way most folks love their mother and any insult of their mother would be taken seriously.

David,

Let me explain it from my multilingual standpoint: the problem isn’t a lack of understanding, comprehension or absorption when reading your posts. The problem with your posts is lack of credibility (on account of the sources you quote and/or link to), along with factual errors which again reinforce the just mentioned.

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
David,

Let me explain it from my multilingual standpoint: the problem isn’t a lack of understanding, comprehension or absorption when reading your posts. The problem with your posts is lack of credibility (on account of the sources you quote and/or link to), along with factual errors which again reinforce the just mentioned.


No factual errors, prove them incorrect. Because you do not like the facts as presented, you discount the scientist’s findings? In other words, “Don’t confuse me with the facts.” I have my mind made up already."

Hans-Jorge,

Ich kann nich schriebe gute Deutsch, aber ich bin studieren auf CD wan ich fahren auf mein Landwagen. Enshulegen Sie fur mei schlechtest Deutsch.

David

David Hill said:
No factual errors, prove them incorrect. Because you do not like the facts as presented, you discount the scientist's findings? In other words, "Don't confuse me with the facts." I have my mind made up already."

Hans-Jorge,

Ich kann nich schriebe gute Deutsch, aber ich bin studieren auf CD wan ich fahren auf mein Landwagen. Enshulegen Sie fur mei schlechtest Deutsch.

David


David,

David Hill said:
Only Barack Hussein Obama is a mullato and not black. Has never had any of the struggles of the people in this country of African decent, he was raised in a privileged white home with all it's advantages. He is actually a White/Arab by birth.

He is currently an ineligible usurper holding the office of president, but is not by definition legally able to BE president.

His race has nothing to do with it.


Kenya is not an Arab country, just because Obama’s natural father is Muslim doesn’t make him an Arab. He is no more Arab than my father was.

There are plenty more errors in your posts and I don’t mean spelling errors. But if you expect me to read all the garbage again, forget it!!!

Soooooooo what about that LS railroad you plan on building?

Quote:

. A significant and understandable fuss has been made about Obama becoming the first African-American President. Obama is arguably not, however, “African-American.” His father, Barack Obama, Sr., is allegedly one-eighth African (on his mother’s side, from the Luo tribe in Kenya) and his father’s remaining ancestry is purported to be Arabic. Candidate Obama is thus more accurately referred to as “Arab-American.” Obama is not (like many black Americans) the descendant of African slaves owned by white American slave-owners. Having Arab ancestors, Obama is, in fact, most likely a descendant of slave owners, because Arabs have for many centuries traditionally owned slaves and been active slave traders. Further, the names Barack and Hussein are of Arab origin. (There is insufficient publicly-available evidence to state with certainty the percentages of Obama’s national ancestries.)http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

I really have very little so far, but have decided to model everything around the American Civil War (War of Northern Aggression) era since I enjoy reading American history and am a veteran so modeling the raid that earned the Union troops the first Medal of Honor, seems interesting. Civil War Railroads by George B. Abdill has plenty of photos of locomotives that could be helpful if I need to make some modifications.

I have started building the rolling stock with an A&NCRR Conductor’s Car,and a Pennsylvania bank-barn. One piece at a time. I hope to pick up some track as it becomes available and an engine.

Thanks in advance for any tips & tricks. I hope to be able to return the favor sometime.

Dave

David Hill said:
I really have very little so far, but have decided to model everything around the American Civil War (War of Northern Aggression) era since I enjoy reading American history and am a veteran so modeling the raid that earned the Union troops the first Medal of Honor, seems interesting. Civil War Railroads by George B. Abdill has plenty of photos of locomotives that could be helpful if I need to make some modifications.

I have started building the rolling stock with an A&NCRR Conductor’s Car,and a Pennsylvania bank-barn. One piece at a time. I hope to pick up some track as it becomes available and an engine.

Thanks in advance for any tips & tricks. I hope to be able to return the favor sometime.

Dave


Don’t be despondent because of the American Civil War designation, as far as I’m concerned that should/could have been called “The Liberation War to Free the Slaves”, but apparently there is a problem with the “Liberation” moniker. At least considering the US track record regarding such matters. :wink: :slight_smile:

On that LS Railroad make sure it ends up the correct gauge for the area, from what I read there was a hodgepodge of track gauges in the South when the North had already standardized on 4’8.5".

I somehow thought this threat would die a long time ago and have to confess to not having read the middle half but, since it is still around I will give it another kick.
Two quick things…
Dave,

1.Just where the current president got his skin colour (English spelling) is important why? Is he not a fully paid up US citizen? Didn’t lots of Americans vote for him? I only ask because it has surfaced on this page of the thread under your name, sorry if it came from somewhere else.

2.Yep, please go back to the scientific evidence! No transitional forms in the fossil record? Please subscribe to a reputable Paleontology journal. The fossil record is replete with transitional forms. The ONLY people that say otherwise are those that have an ideological reason to ignore them.
It is up to you how you interpret them, and how that fits with your personal belief, but there is no need for a strong argument to be supported by lies, where ever they come from.
Discovery Institute propaganda is NOT a review of scientific data. Be careful of what they claim, like ALL opinion stuff, including mine! Dig

I will happily leave you and the god of Abraham alone (along with all the other major gods in vogue around the planet at the moment, not to mention those out of fashion, I like Thor though ), if you will allow science to be science and not use a bronze age text from people who thought the earth was flat as a filter for evidence.
I would have thought that a divine all knowing, all powerful creator of the universe was quite capable of looking after themselves without your need to get upset when someone questions interpretation.
Your religion is your choice, but use it as an argument in a discussion of scientific theories and you may well find that others have a different view.

Now about getting a pony and more track laid…
I am really looking forward to seeing if the disaster that was LGB can get me some christmas cars and I soooo want a Krok, even a blue one…

HJ,

I don’t know what is the major religion of Kenya, it may be Evangelical Christian, if what I learned during a week in Mombasa and environs while on active duty. Everywhere I went it seemed there was another Evangelical Church, usually Anglican.

This I do know for sure, the first two people I met after I walked down the brow were proudly Muslim, a taxi driver, and a hotel clerk. The young man that I hired as a walking tour guide was Muslim, as was the gentleman from whom I purchased a hand carved from ebony rhinoceros. I met the carver and his son after midnight on the last night in port. I was returning to the ship from liberty, and he and his son were just finishing packing up the last few pieces of hand carved rhinos, giraffes, lions, elephants and so on. I spotted the rhino in the trunk of his car and just had to have it.

Most wood carvings meant for the tourist trade are simple outline only, called “slicks,” very little detail. This fellow missed that memo. His stuff was very detailed, and this rhino even had skin folds carved in. I asked for his best price, he mentioned a price that was insulting to the piece, it was so low. I could not insult the gentleman by just whipping out my wallet and paying what he asked, as though the rhino, and by extension, the carver, were beneath contempt, so I came back with a counter offer.

As the dicker progressed, and we got closer to an agreement, he offered me the hospitality of a Coke on ice, very refreshing in the midnight heat. We sat and sipped our Cokes, talking about this and that. He mentioned that his son, who was perhaps 16 or 17 was a good scholar, and was going on to University with tuition funded by the Christian Evangelical missionaries who had been his secondary school teachers. Remember, now, he is Muslim. Anyway, as we finished our Cokes, it was time to reach an agreement, so we did, I reached into my ruck to get my wallet and pay him in the local money. There was a Panasonic “Walkman” like tape player-AM/FM radio on top that I had to pull out to get to my wallet. The kid’s eyes lit up and he pointed at it, so I offered it to the gentleman instead of the money. Seeing the desire in his son’s eyes (the kid already had it on and was listening to it) he waved off the money and accepted the tape deck instead.

I made sure that it had new batteries, gave the kid a Jethro Tull tape, picked up the rhino, and walked aboard the ship. What makes this story so cool is that both of us, the carver and I, walked away from the deal feeling like bandits.

Sorry for the digression, but the first two people I met in Kenya were Muslim, and so were the last two people. That must count for something.

Steve Featherkile said:
HJ,

I made sure that it had new batteries, gave the kid a Jethro Tull tape, picked up the rhino, and walked aboard the ship. What makes this story so cool is that both of us, the carver and I, walked away from the deal feeling like bandits.


Ahhhh, sanity at last! “Thick as a Brick” by chance? If find it very hard to go past “Song from the Wood”

I would never give up that one. It was a “Best of…”

I saw Tull live last summer. What a performance, what a performer!

Fred Mills said:
On the "Global Warming" note......how come this winter's reports are showing an increase of Artic ice........?
That's proof that Al Gore's campaign is effective.!

Happy RRing,

Jerry

David,
I can assure you that the English language is my indigenious language and I am fully aware that there are those who use inuendo as a subtefuge to hide their true message. My faith frowns on the language that you have used throughout this thread, to insult others and yet it is you, the one who professes love of god, who is the one who is doing the insulting and yet, claiming that he has been insulted. As suggested previously, more god-fearing and less insulting of god’s creation.

    Maybe an occasional model railroad posting and not your usual political, religious, racial bias.  Some may doubt if you actually have an interest in model railroads and are simply using this site to profess your biassed views on humanity.  As suggested previously,  there are, no doubt,  many bigotted sites where you can peddle your trash and your feeling of supremacy.  Remember the reason for Lucifer's fall from grace.
Geoff Merrell said:
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I am really looking forward to seeing if the disaster that was LGB can get me some christmas cars and I soooo want a Krok, even a blue one…


George,

The proto “Blue Krok” (the one on the RhB) has been scrapped! Good riddance! :wink: :slight_smile:

Steve,

Sure it counts for something. :slight_smile: But it doesn’t advance the “Obama is Arab-American” argument in the least. :slight_smile: It just proves that religion is more or less irrelevant - a situation I loudly applaud! - and the sooner more and more people come to the same conclusion, based on experiences like yours, the better! AMEN! :wink:

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Geoff Merrell said:
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I am really looking forward to seeing if the disaster that was LGB can get me some christmas cars and I soooo want a Krok, even a blue one…


George,

The proto “Blue Krok” (the one on the RhB) has been scrapped! Good riddance! :wink: :slight_smile:


Oooooooooooooo yeah I just knew that that would get a bite!

Geoff.

American and British Peoples are seperated by a common language…or something to that effect. LOL When I watch BBC programs on Public TV my North Carolina wife always asks " What did he/she say? I can’t understand a word of it." You should have heard the folks in North Dakota when we were stationed there ask her to repeat what she said becuase they couldn’t understand what she had said…Me? I am from Nebraska…totally universal. Uffffda Ole! Ya sure ya betcha Ya’All be good now! YaHear!
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