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Real Navy Chiefs

REAL CHIEFS

Real Chiefs think Ensigns should be seen and not heard and never ever be allowed to read books on leadership.
Real Chiefs don’t own civilian clothes.
Real Chiefs have CPO Association Cards from their last five commands.
Real Chiefs don’t remember life before they were a Chief.
Real Chiefs Wedding Proposal: “There will be a wedding at 1000 hours on 29 October, be there in whites with your gear packed because you will be a prime participant.”
Real Chiefs favorite national holiday is CPO Initiation.
Real Chiefs believe that in the Navy every day is a holiday, every meal is a feast, every payday is a lottery and every muster is a family reunion.
Real Chiefs favorite breakfast is shipboard SOS.
Real Chiefs don’t know how to tell civilian time.
Real Chiefs call each other “Chief.”
Real Chiefs greatest fear is signing for property book items.
Real Chiefs dream in Navy Blue, White, Haze Gray and occasionally khaki.
Real Chiefs have served on ships that are now war memorials or tourist attractions.
Real Chiefs get tears in their eyes when the “Chief” dies in the movie “Operation Pacific.”
Real Chiefs don’t like “Certified Navy Twill” (CNT’s). “Wash khaki” is the ONLY thing out of which to make a uniform.
Real Chiefs can find their way to the CPO Club while blindfolded on fifteen different Navy bases.
Real Chiefs have pictures of past ships in their wallets.
Real Chiefs only own ink pens that have “Property U.S. Government” printed on them.
Real Chiefs never volunteer to get mandatory flu shots.
Real Chiefs have a permanent curl in their forefinger.
Real Chiefs don’t order supplies, they swap for them.
Real Chiefs favorite quote is from the movie Ben Hur, “We keep you alive to serve this ship.”
Real Chiefs think excessive modesty is their only fault.
Real Chiefs hate to write evaluations, except for their own.
Real Chiefs turn in a four page brag sheet for their evaluation.
Real Chiefs always say their last ship was their best ship.
Real Chiefs know that the black tar in their coffee cup makes the coffee taste better.
Real Chiefs are proudest when one of their former strikers makes Chief.
Real Chiefs idea of heaven: Three good PO1’s and a Division Officer who does what he is told.
Real Chiefs think John Wayne would have made a good Chief if he had not gone soft and made Marine movies.
Real Chiefs use the term “Good Training” to describe any unpleasant task. Scraping the sides of the ship is “Good Training.” Having to sleep on your sea bag in the parking lot because there was no room in the barracks is “Good Training.”
Real Chiefs teach their children that the highest attainment in life should be in becoming a Chief.
Real Chiefs can never fathom why a Chief would even consider accepting a commission.
Real Chiefs think “Crepes and Quiche” are a gay Hollywood couple.
Real Chiefs rather hitchhike than own an imported automobile, truck or motorcycle.
Real Chiefs keep four sets of dress khaki uniforms in the closet in hopes they will come back.
Real Chiefs love their mothers mainly because she has a son or daughter in the Navy.
Real Chiefs believe that the only thing to make life more complete is if he/she had been born in a naval hospital.
Real Chiefs are always right and they know it. In the impossible hypothesis that a subordinate may be right, the former still applies.
Real Chiefs do not regard an officer’s rank and title as the measure of his or her competence.
Real Chiefs are the only people who can make the salutation “Ensign” sound like a four letter word.
Real Chiefs are always “The Chief” - even in shower shoes and a towel.
Real Chiefs will tell you that they are always a part of the answer, never the problem.
Real Chiefs will always say, “Let me do it for you, Sir,” and then promptly assign someone to do it.
Real Chiefs don’t sleep; they rest.
Real Chiefs are never late; they are detained elsewhere.
Real Chiefs never leave work; their presence is required elsewhere.
Real Chiefs never eat sliders at mid rats.
Real Chiefs don’t eat quiche, and they can’t pronounce it or spell it.
Real Chiefs never read the newspaper in the mess; they study current events.
Real Chiefs play cut-throat Hearts, not Poker; and never, ever Bridge.
Real Chiefs never play a sport where the ball doesn’t come back by itself (bowling - yes, golf - no, tennis - never).
Real Chiefs call their spouses WIFELANT or WIFEPAC, or CINCHOUSE or CINCFAM.
Real Chiefs are at sea when their kids are born. [“You have to be there to lay the keel but not to launch them.”]
Real Chiefs always say, “Morning,” never “Good morning,” except when they are getting ready to get underway.
Real Chiefs never eat off of the ship. They know the best food is in the Chiefs’ Mess.
Real Chiefs are hated by Supply Officers who have to take inventory after the Real Chief pays a social call.
Real Chiefs don’t write in cursive, except for their paycheck signatures.
Real Chiefs think that the easiest day at sea is tougher than the worst day on shore duty.
Real Chiefs don’t make coffee.
Real Chiefs know that you can never, ever, at any time, at any location, sea or shore, or under any circumstances, be allowed to run out of coffee.
Real Chiefs never wash out their coffee cups, rinse maybe, but never wash it.
Real Chiefs have a coffee pot next to their desks with an intravenous tube running into their arms.
Real Chiefs have a Goat Locker.
Real Chiefs never vacation; every day on the ship is a vacation.
Real Chiefs think that “sensitivity” is a control knob on a radar or sonar console and that’s all it is.
Real Chiefs have the heart of a little boy … kept in a jar on the desk.
Real Chiefs’ think that remote control is a PO1 on the other end of a walkie-talkie.
Real Chiefs know that you don’t need a computer to sail a ship, especially when the power is out.
Real Chiefs think that a seven-course meal on liberty is a baked potato and a six-pack of beer.
Real Chiefs never go on liberty with their juniors; they conduct training sessions.
Real Chiefs never have wine on liberty; it better be brewed and it better be cold.
Real Chiefs can name at least fifteen bars in Hong Kong, but know that the best bars are across the bay in Kowloon.
Real Chiefs have tattoos; otherwise, how would they remember what a great time they had on liberty?
Real Chiefs can communicate with each other using farts.
Real Chiefs have mastered the use of the silent, but deadly, fart and they are not afraid to use it, especially around watch stations.
Real Chiefs have a “Zippo” that has been everywhere and still works.
Real Chiefs have tattoos on their forearms that would force them to keep their cuffs buttoned at a church picnic.
Real Chiefs take eighteen year-old idiots and hammer them into Sailors.
Real Chiefs know that the term “All hands” means “All hands.”
Real Chiefs don’t have to command respect; they get it because there is nothing else that you can give them.
Real Chiefs are expert at choosing descriptive adjectives and nouns, none of which their mothers would endorse.
Real Chiefs have rows of hard-earned, worn, and faded ribbons, but know that ribbons don’t make you a Sailor.
Real Chiefs are matured like good whisky in steel hulls over many years.
Real Chiefs aren’t the kind of guys you thank; monkeys in zoos don’t spend a lot of time thanking the guy who makes them do tricks for peanuts.
Real Chiefs are the standard by which you measure all others.
Real Chiefs were educated at the other end of an anchor chain from Copenhagen to Singapore.
Real Chiefs never excuse being late, not helping a shipmate, or running out of coffee.
Real Chiefs never spill a drink.
Real Chiefs never drink and drive because you might hit a bump and spill a drink.
Real Chiefs never go to sick call.
Real Chiefs have to go out and bring everyone back.
Real Chiefs know that you never wrestle with a pig because you both get dirty, and the pig likes it.
Real Chiefs never argue with an idiot because people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
Real Chiefs observe everything, but admire nothing.
Real Chiefs know that they will always get what they in-spect, not what they ex-pect.
Real Chiefs agreed with John Wayne when he said, “Life is tough! But it’s tougher when you’re stupid!”
Real Chiefs know that no sailor is completely worthless, because worst case, they serve as a good bad example.
Real Chiefs know that there’s no help program like a self-help program.
Real Chiefs will tell you that, “If you are going to do something stupid, at least be smart about it.”
Real Chiefs can write up anyone they want.
Real Chiefs are the ultimate paradox. On the one hand they don’t give a crap, but on the other hand, Real Chiefs are very careful and precise.
Real Chiefs can find the best bar in any port by dead reckoning.
Real Chiefs paint their houses Navy Grey with their addresses taken from their favorite hull number.
Real Chiefs have a red and green buoy at the end of their driveways.
Real Chiefs eat lightning and crap thunder.
Real Chiefs consider a hurricane to be good sea trials.
Real Chiefs are the Navy.
Real Chiefs think that Ensigns, like diapers, should be changed often and for the same reason.
Real Chiefs know that once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it only makes it worse.
Real Chiefs assume nothing is so simple that it cannot be misunderstood and they act accordingly.
Real Chiefs have only one rule on liberty: Yield to temptation; it may never pass your way again.
Real Chiefs never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Real Chiefs never take the advice of someone who has not had their kind of trouble.
Real Chiefs know that if it is stupid but works, it is not stupid.
Real chiefs will tell you that you can survive on charm for about 5 minutes, after that, you’d better know something.
Real Chiefs know that assumption is the mother of all screw-ups.
Real Chiefs never assume, they get the facts.
Real Chiefs do not confuse efforts with results.
Real Chiefs will give you three choices in any situation; change, accept, or leave the Navy.
Real Chiefs think “Hail to the Chief” was originally intended for CPOs.

My Dad was a Chief, but not a real one. He was appointed Chief after basic training because he graduated with a degree in electrical engineering in 1944, and his eyesight was not good enough to be an Ensign. He worked at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington DC during the rest of the war. I don’t know what real Chiefs felt about him, but he would say Chiefs are in charge of all the real work done in the Navy.

Being an Ex Royal Navy Chief Petty Officer, I couldn’t possibly comment. :wink:
However, It appears that USN and RN Chiefs have a lot in common…:slight_smile:
Rod F.

When I was posted from my company to work at a Royal Naval Air Station , I was given a Chief to look after me . As an ex Chief (RAF) myself , I appreciated this , having had dealings with the RN before . Anything we needed , this Chief got . Very quickly , not always quietly . He made the job a pleasure . I mentioned this to the CO when he came round doing his Duke of Edinburgh bit and he said “Of course , what did you expect ?” .
The thing that spoiled it was the powers that be insisted that I had to use the Officers’ Mess , or The Wardroom . This made it awkward for me to be invited to the Chief’s mess , but he found a way --the CO that is ; I found the RN to be very flexible and get up and go . Seems to be a tradition , because I was seconded to the Spanish Navy and had a Chief as Mentor there , just the same . Great times .

Mike

Navy Chiefs are Chiefs, the world around, even in the old Soviet Navy. I could tell you a story that might have happened…

Steve Featherkile said:
I could tell you a story that might have happened....
Aaaah. That one ... Did the Captain ever find his missing ...

I think this has been asked before, how many CHIEFS do we have on this site?

BMC R. W. GOLDING, USCG 2/13/69 to 11/1/89

Ric Golding said:
I think this has been asked before, how many CHIEFS do we have on this site?

BMC R. W. GOLDING, USCG 2/13/69 to 11/1/89


Hey, Bos’n, glad to know you.

HMC(SW, FMF) S. M. Featherkile, USN (Ret) 11/74 to 08/94 (with prior service in USMC )

Chief,

I think we’ve spoke on this before. I was just wondering if others had joined us. I’m still able to drink a pot of coffee before breakfast. I don’t spill a drop of coffee or rum, while I correct or instruct the young ones, but I’m still having trouble mastering these civilian language skills. My brain translates the proper words to something civil 98% of the time. The other 2%, the truth comes out. :wink:

Ric Golding said:
Chief,

I think we’ve spoke on this before. I was just wondering if others had joined us. I’m still able to drink a pot of coffee before breakfast. I don’t spill a drop of coffee or rum, while I correct or instruct the young ones, but I’m still having trouble mastering these civilian language skills. My brain translates the proper words to something civil 98% of the time. The other 2%, the truth comes out. :wink:


Ric

I think you have your answer. There are only a few Chiefs here, but there are many more that served only a hitch or two. And I know…A career military life is not an easy row to hoe…

The Lone Railroader
Army 22 years

22 years, man and boy, last seven as a Chief. Same trade as your USN Aviation Bos’n’s Mates. (Yellow Jacket)
Been out 24 years and I’m still not keen on civillians…:slight_smile:
Rod F.

Gee,

Honest to god, my Air Force retirement orders say 37 years and 3 days for Pay. Total Active Duty came to 12 years when it was all added up, including two wars, two Purple Hearts and Three Bronze Stars. Yeah, I had an insane period in my late teens early 20’s.

Had I not busted a physical I would have been in this mess too. I now thank god for Docs that wont flex, but the day I was told it was over was a bitch, even the base commander took leave that day. While I was doing that I also put in 30 years as an Army Civilian. Our Military is still the best job a youngster can get right out of school if he stays out of trouble.

Ron

Ron

I was going for much longer than 22 years but my last parachute jump made me a lawn dart…or I would be in the Sand Pile myself…remember 6 o’clock hold…no points for the turban.

Oh yes, I was in the Sand Pile from 1980 until 1995.

De Oppresso Liber

The Lone Railroader

Lone,

I did the Active Army originally. I was a communcations and intell type with a secondary as a combat medic. After Vietnam I floared around, went back to school, and worked retail, then in 1975 got totaly bored, was have stress problems so I got in the Army guard as an 11D40, it took me a year and a half to get tired of the politics so I Joined the WV Anir National Guard, I was there a year and a half and they offered me a full time postition as a commo and intell type and I took it. After four years I left to work in the same feld for another nameless govt agency and stayed in the guard, but I moved to the Command post and Air Field Operations by then I had completed a degree which the WV guard paid for and I went to work for the Army as a Civilian. Both were rewarding careers.

I busted a physical in 1992 right after the sand box, it was due to problems that croped up from Vietnam so I finally got dissability after an almost 8 year fight. I had fully intended on doing both until I was 60 and hit the manditory retirement age for reservist. The only down side was that I took a big cut in pay when I was activated for Desert Shield and Storm. I still had one kid in college then but thank god we had just paid off the mortage and my wife had been promoted to VP of the bank holding company that she worked for.

At the end I was starting to have a problem with the fact that I was used to being called Sir on my full time job and having to say Sir on my reserve job. The army actually got me pulled back home twice just to go back to the sand as a Col equivalent civilian that was starting to get a little old as well. Neither job that I was doing was that critical to the effort, they were just short on trained bodies. Twice I had to fly home, change shit cases and fly back. Each time I came back I had to go to an orientation to go back to the desert. A lot of smart folks in charge of the sand.

The retardness of some of this was starting to take its toll. So when they punched my ticket I was mad, but it did not take long to see that maybe it was the smarter thing to do.

On of my co-workers on my army job was a Major in an Army Guard SF unit, he spoke Spanish, German, and English like a native as well as Hebrew, Farsi, and Arabic, he loved jumping out of our units C130’s over the mountians of Western Maryland at night.

He was the first to go during both gulf wars, last I heard he was a full Col and still on active duty.

I guess that expalins why he was a single guy too.

Ron

Ron

I was active duty Army SF for all but the first six months (Basic, Airborne & Selection Training) of my career. Spent 9 to 10 months out of every year on the road, visited over 30 countries and most visits were not as a tourist staying in 4 star hotels. Did 1465 parachute jumps (Static Line & Halo). Got many badges…used to be fluent in Russian & German, but with no practice in many years, much of the language proficency has slipped away. My first love was always demolitions (none of it forgotten). Do miss the life, but not the BS. And most of the adventures go with me to the Dirt Nap. The last jump got me good (90% Service Connected VA & 70% DOD Combat Related). Never did file for the PTSD.

The Lone Railroader

I never did the PTSD thing, with a TS clearance it was not advisable to do, no matter what they say. Then the paper work is unreal. Right now I am at 80% going to go for 100 due to more complications that are poping up. I now have some spinal problems as well from a real hard landing that I made in a Huey. It seems that it was an oportune place for autritis to set into as well as the other problems.

Later,

Ron

Ronald Wenger said:
I never did the PTSD thing, with a TS clearance it was not advisable to do, no matter what they say. Then the paper work is unreal. Right now I am at 80% going to go for 100 due to more complications that are poping up. I now have some spinal problems as well from a real hard landing that I made in a Huey. It seems that it was an oportune place for autritis to set into as well as the other problems.

Later,

Ron


Good Advice on the PTSD…Good Luck with the VA…the DAV Rep & My Congressman really helped me with the VA…And as you know what a friendly bunch the VA Compensation Board is…NOT!

VA…the only place I know where the bean counters practice medicine…:frowning: Great doctors, they do all they can to help just to have some accountant tell them they can’t do that. And the Patient Advocate is a joke.

I might have to go that DAV route, too. I’ve been having some problems in the lumbar spine and the SI joint that began after I was the last one out of a CH 47 during a night insertion on one of those assults on Camp Pendleton, CA, and fell 10 feet in full 'Duce gear. The pilot was over-eager to get airborne. The only problem is that I never reported the injury. Too gung-ho, I guess. The El-Tee was right behind me, but he was smarter than I and hung on.

Steve Featherkile said:
I might have to go that DAV route, too. I've been having some problems in the lumbar spine and the SI joint that began after I was the last one out of a CH 47 during a night insertion on one of those assults on Camp Pendleton, CA, and fell 10 feet in full 'Duce gear. The pilot was over-eager to get airborne. The only problem is that I never reported the injury. Too gung-ho, I guess. The El-Tee was right behind me, but he was smarter than I and hung on.
You can sign a limited power of attorney with the DAV and they go into the decision board, where you are not allowed, on your behalf.