Stay classy, skinheads.
http://cbs5.com/campaign08/obama.assasination.plot.2.849858.html
Unfortunately, I believe we’ll see a lot of this should Obama get elected.
Very sad, but you are probably right.
If some nut job is successful we will be seeing major riots.
If he doesn’t get elected, we may have the same problem.
Ralph
Ralph Berg said:Why do you think that, Ralph? You think people will riot if he doesn't win? What's your reason for thinking that? I haven't seen any evidence for it.
Very sad, but you are probably right. If some nut job is successful we will be seeing major riots. If he doesn't get elected, we may have the same problem. Ralph
I’m frankly amazed that Obama is a close to wining as he is. I was one of those people who thought that white Americans would not vote for a black man. It looks like I was wrong
The internet is chalked full of less reputable sources than these, leaning left or right. Blogs, forums, you name it.
Perhaps one of these will meet your approval as a source.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/161214?tid=relatedcl
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5586
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/22/politics/horserace/entry4539330.shtml
mike omalley said:Ralph Berg said:Why do you think that, Ralph? You think people will riot if he doesn't win? What's your reason for thinking that? I haven't seen any evidence for it.
Very sad, but you are probably right. If some nut job is successful we will be seeing major riots. If he doesn't get elected, we may have the same problem. RalphI’m frankly amazed that Obama is a close to wining as he is. I was one of those people who thought that white Americans would not vote for a black man. It looks like I was wrong
Well I see some reporters speculating. It seems just as likely to me that if there was rioting–and I don’t think there will be–it could be coming from the McCain side.
Never mind.
mike omalley said:
Well I see some reporters speculating. It seems just as likely to me that if there was rioting--and I don't think there will be--it could be coming from the McCain side.
Well here Dave, lets’ take a look a one
This is the CBS link you sent. Lets take a close look
The headline says “Police Prepare For Possible Election Night Riots”
But there is almost no evidence in the article of police preparing for riots–barely any. Look for yourself
"Will election night bring civil unrest?
Police departments countrywide think it’s a possibility, and they’re preparing for riots or other violent reactions to a McCain or Obama victory, The Hill reports."
Ok, WHAT police departments? Can we see an example? Or is it just something “the Hill” made up?
Then we have:
"There is particular concern that a loss by Obama, who has built a big lead in the polls, could prompt significant problems.
“Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations,” The Hill writes. Detroit, Chicago, Oakland and Philadelphia are among the cities that plan to have extra police deployed."
Here again “Some worry.” Well, I’m sure “some” do, but there is no specific evidence there. But wait, here’s a real quote, from a real police spokesman in Oakland.
“Are we anticipating it will be a riot situation? No. But will we be prepared if it goes awry? Yes,” Oakland Police Department spokesman Jeff Thomason said."
Ok, so look at the–the Oakland police are actually saying THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what the headline claims. They ARE NOT anticipating riots. But they are prepared if they should happen. Good to know.
“Oakland will have extra units trained to deal with riots deployed and SWAT teams on standby when the results come in. Many police departments are preparing as they might for the possibility of a championship win or loss by a local sports team.”
Ok, they will have teams on standby, as they might when a sports team wins. That’s a little different than what the headline implies, no?
"Some believe riots could come no matter who wins.
“If [Obama] is elected, like with sports championships, people may go out and riot,” Bob Parks, an online columnist and black Republican candidate for state representative in Massachusetts, told The Hill. “If Barack Obama loses there will be another large group of people who will assume the election was stolen from him…… This will be an opportunity for people who want to commit mischief.”"
So let’s take look at who that “some” is: It’s “an online columnist and black republican candidate” for state legislature. So a black republican politician is suggesting Obama wining will cause a riot. Maybe he’s got an agenda?
There’s hardly a shred of credible evidence in that piece.
It’s certainly possible that there will be rioting if Obama wins, or if he loses. It could coe from McCain supporters. But to assume there will be, it seems to me, is to engage in stereotyping . This article, it seems to me, is mostly turning a republican talking point into “news.”
mike omalley said:Ralph Berg said:Why do you think that, Ralph? You think people will riot if he doesn't win? What's your reason for thinking that? I haven't seen any evidence for it.
Very sad, but you are probably right. If some nut job is successful we will be seeing major riots. If he doesn't get elected, we may have the same problem. RalphI’m frankly amazed that Obama is a close to wining as he is. I was one of those people who thought that white Americans would not vote for a black man. It looks like I was wrong
I’ll tell you why. Polls have Obama leading the electoral vote by 355 to 156 for McCain. If Obama does not win, many people will think the Republicans “stole” the election.
Remember Rodney King? It doesn’t take much to start a riot.
It is my understanding the military has trained some of its most experienced troops in riot control. Some of these crack troops are now in Georgia.
I’m not being racist Mike, just a realist. I was in Detroit during the 1967 riots. I’ve experienced it first hand.
Ralph
Fair enough Ralph. I did not mean to accuse you of racism. I suspect “those black people will riot” is a piece of campaign psy-ops. I mean, what were those guys the ATF just arrested, who were out to kill 100+ black people? They were white racists. At which rallies did the Secret Service send agents to investigate after someone possibly shouted “kill him?” At McCain/Palin rallies. And yet somehow this has turned into a thread about black people rioting.
And, at last report, they The Secret Service found no evidence that anyone shouted “Kill him.” So, since it was only reported on the Obama networks, I suspect that it was the Obama campaign playing the race card, again.
mike omalley said:I certainly don't think a riot would be a sure thing if Obama wasn't elected. However, if there were a successful attempt on his life, I wouldn't want to be living in any major city. Ralph
Fair enough Ralph. I did not mean to accuse you of racism. I suspect "those black people will riot" is a piece of campaign psy-ops. I mean, what were those guys the ATF just arrested, who were out to kill 100+ black people? They were white racists. At which rallies did the Secret Service send agents to investigate after someone possibly shouted "kill him?" At McCain/Palin rallies. And yet somehow this has turned into a thread about black people rioting.
Any denizen of a large US metropolitan area could tell you the muggers get scarce on the ground this time of year. Same with rioters - it ain’t gonna happen in November, when the weather is lousy. Look how it’s screwed up the World Series!
Dave Healy said:Buildings make wonderful bonfires, Dave. I watched what seemed like half of Detroit burn when I was young. Ralph
Any denizen of a large US metropolitan area could tell you the muggers get scarce on the ground this time of year. Same with rioters - it ain't gonna happen in November, when the weather is lousy. Look how it's screwed up the World Series!