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Question is, how to route the wiring on PRR's pilot beam markers

Hey Y’all; The question is, how to route the wiring on PRR’s pilot beam markers? So here’s some thinking out loud. As well as having smokebox mounted class lamps, at some point (1920s?) PRR started mounting marker lamps on steam loco pilot beams and rear tender corners. Used to know why, don’t any more. Even though probably an earlier era loco than when PRR really did that I want to do so to Big Hauler 4-6-0. Lamps are Aristo Pacific parts which come with incandescent bulbs: ex Christmas light 3mm LED will be substituted. Castings will be eventually painted green. Also want them to be powered by sound system battery, probably hard-wired to be on when battery is present, so loco can be found in dark at opposite end of garden if (when?) track power might be lost, that has happened. While wiring tender lamps is a breeze, getting juice from there to way up at other end is a question. Current line of thought on getting power between tender and loco is to do so in a manner which represents water hoses from under water legs to injectors. Some kind of easily releasable hookup will be needed in order to separate loco and tender for stowing in original set box. After that it’s an open question.

are these rods from the smokestack to the beam from metall?
or could they be replaced with copper rods?
if yes, there you would have a connection.

Korm, they are solid brass.
Hmmm . . .

happy welding!

Looking at photo up there, something looked empty. We now have this.

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa309/FSW4picts/G%20gauge%20projects/IMG_3937_1.jpg)

Is Plastruct treadplate sheet even though I’m pretty sure they didn’t have treadplate in 1880s. {like that was going to stop me; they also didn’t have the thing wired for half a dozen lights in the 1880s either} The visual texture was more desirable than plain sheet.

yes, that looks better. and it will hide your cables.

now you need steps down from the steam chests :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :wink:

Dave Marconi said:
now you need steps down from the steam chests :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :wink:

Hey, there’s an idea. Come to think of it, somewhere in some book the other day, saw some which came up on inclined pedestals from pilot beam. This is a 40 years later loco type but shows the idea

(www.northeast.railfan.net/images/prr8396s.jpg)

Alright, Idea! 1. lose the ‘towel rack’ grab iron. It wasn’t on real PRR 4-6-0s as far as can be determined http://www.northeast.railfan.net/prr_steam3.html and makes pilot area look cluttered anyway. 2. move lamps outboard to its mounting holes 3. holes drilled for current lamp location become mounting holes for those pedestals.

Korm Kormsen said:
and it will hide your cables.
While sitting at Doctor's office had a stroke of genius, which I guess is better than a just plain stroke.

Wire the pair of LED in series which will make for only 2 wires to have to deal with then hide the wires “in plain sight” as lines to air brake & signal line hookups on the pilot.

What to do with them once they get aft of the cylinder saddle is still an open question.

i hope, you will show how it comes out.

Korm Kormsen said:
i hope, you will show how it comes out.
With my ego being what it is, there is no doubt ;D

Scott,

Remember that with two diodes (LEDs) in series, you will have to have more battery voltage than twice the forward voltage of one diode.

If you are planning to use a 9 V battery, that will be plenty.

Battery (+) -----current limiting resistor-----A LED K -----A LED K— Battery (-)

A = anode
K = cathode

Start with a 10KOhm resistor and halve it each time. 4.7k, 2.2k, 1k, etc.

If you want a handy adjustable resistor, get a 10k Ohm potentiometer.

Hope this helps.

Joe Satnik

Thanks Joe.
Yes, sound system 9V under tender water hatch is to be hard wired to markers fore and aft so if a battery is present they are on. Sound system will still go through on/off switch.

Right now, class lamps on smokebox sides are on headlight circuit - be simple to swap them over to battery also.

So, 9v would wind up running six 3mm warm white LED from battery powered Christmas light string.
2 front markers in series.
2 class lamps in parallel - that’s how they are wired now.
2 aft markers in series.

Backup light and headlight would be track powered.

–> Another dream is to drill out firebox door; scratch new door in open position; flickering firebox light.