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Potlatch Lumber Company Shays... Standard Gauge.

Prototypes
#1

For those interested in Standard Gauge Shays, the PFC shays ran on the WI&M in North Idaho, hauling White Pine out of the woods to the mill at Potlatch, ID.

Potlatch Forest Company #102

#106

#107

#200, near Bovil, Idaho

107 and 200 had the later “White Pine Route” logo on their tenders. Photos take sometime in the 1930’s.

Weyerhauser Timber Company #2

Weyerhauser Timber Company #5

Washington Idaho & Montana #102, probably the same locomotive as Potlatch Forest Company 102

The locomotive had an unusual if not unique employment of cylinders. The lead two were of the piston valve type, with the rear-most cylinder being of the slide valve type. The chest cover of that rear cylinder faced perpendicular to and away from the boiler.

Photos taken from the “Geared Steam Locomotive Works” website, http://www.gearedsteam.com/shay/images_wa-wd.htm, shared under “Fair Use Policy” for education purposes.

#2

I like the 102 and the 107. I like shays but my least favorite of them is the “pacific coast” style like #2 #5 & #200. All of them are beasts though and impressive to watch. Thanks for the photos!

T

#3

Nice pictures. One of the biggest Shays ever built is still operating at Cass - Big #6…

Big 6

Bart knows all the poop on this one.

#4

Thanks a lot Steve! Just when I was forgetting about my comment yesterday you go ahead and post more pictures! To build one in 1/29 would be quite the challenge, since everything would have to be scratch built. Very temping to add to the bucket list of someday when I have more time and money :wink:

#5

Craig Townsend said:
Thanks a lot Steve! Just when I was forgetting about my comment yesterday you go ahead and post more pictures! To build one in 1/29 would be quite the challenge, since everything would have to be scratch built. Very temping to add to the bucket list of someday when I have more time and money :wink:

I live, only to serve, Efendi. Of course, you could bash one of the Bachmann Shays.

#6

Steve Featherkile said:

Craig Townsend said:
Thanks a lot Steve! Just when I was forgetting about my comment yesterday you go ahead and post more pictures! To build one in 1/29 would be quite the challenge, since everything would have to be scratch built. Very temping to add to the bucket list of someday when I have more time and money :wink:

I live, only to serve, Efendi. Of course, you could bash one of the Bachmann Shays.

Wouldn’t the cylinders, pistons, and gearing all be too big? Not to mention the trucks? I don’t even want to measure to see if it’s possible! Must resist the urge…

#7

Over here in yUK a gentleman by the name of Ian Cherry has built an 18-ton T-boilered Shay in 1/32nd scale - powered by live steam. From the photograph it looks like it’s running on 0 gauge track, which would be more or less correct for three-foot prototype. If you are familiar with the AccuCraft two-cylinder Shay, or the Bachmann 0n30 Shay, you’ll know the one I mean.

The mind boggles.

tac

Ottawa Valley GRS

#8

Yea, I am more partial to the smaller Shays myself.

As for bashing a Bachmann Shay into 1:29, I don’t know how many details would have to be created. The sideline drive would have to be redone to the proper scale, I don’t know if the trucks could just be used as is. Some parts were simply larger on the standard gauge Shays.

#9

The sideline drives on those standard gauge Shays are massive, have you taken a close look at the photos? They are not the wimpy side drives found on narrow gauge shays. I think that you could lower the cab height, perhaps fuss with the sand and steam domes a bit, adjust the stack height, and call it a day.

@ TAC… Terry, while building a 1:32 shay that runs on narrow gauge track represented by 0 gauge (1.25 inch) track would be interesting, what I am talking about is bashing a Bachman two or three truck Shay to 1:29 or 32 and have it run on Standard gauge track, represented by 1 Gauge (1.75 inch) track.

#10

Very nice pictures Steve! Thanks for posting them. I have a couple bachmann shays apart now for kitbashing, and was tempted to do something similar to one like you are thinking. Have you seen this one by David Holt, It was lowered and the cab cut down, though he still modeled a narrow guage engine, you could easily have a standard gauge engine, just maybe lowering the domes and stack a little as well.

Here is the link: http://4largescale.com/holt/h19.htm