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Piko and thier exciting future

Hi Guys,

I though you might be interested in reading this. A friend sent it to me and I was impressed. Piko’s initial offerings in G scale are really nice. I cant wait to see what other goodies they have coming our way. Anyway here is the blurb I came across

"Piko goes East
…and increases the number of employees at home.

Piko has started to manufacture in Chashan/China with the opening of
the most modern model train manufacturing plant in the world. By year
end, 400 employees are expected to work at that plant.

At the same time, additional staff is required at their home base in
Sonnenberg to handle the growing Garden Railroad production.

Noteworthy is the fact that this is all happening at a time when most
of the large model train manufacturers are struggling (Fleischmann,
LGB, Roco) or can only survive with the help of “finance investors”
(Märklin/Trix) .

Even more amazing is that this new manufacturing plant is owned and
operated by Piko whereas all other model train manufactures have
outsourced their production to a foreign manufacturing organization
and are thus struggling with quality issues and constantly rising prices.
The Chinese firm “SandaKan”, largest model train manufacturer in the
world, now manufactures for almost all leading model train companies,
including Märklin.

Piko now is the only German model train manufacturer with their own
plant in China.

This huge new investment was financed by Piko along with their two
“house banks”, the Commerce Bank and the HypoVereinsbank. Piko is the
only major model train manufacturer in the German speaking region that
does not require the support of a “finance investor”

Source of this information is Piko. Additional details along with many
photographs will be published in the May edition of Modellbahn
Illustrierte (MBI).
MBI emphasizes that the magazine is NOT available on the net."

-Bruce

Bruce,
I agree with you that Piko has a future. That future may though be dependent on Marklin ‘supporting’ them with continued production of the German standard gauge passenger coaches (released not long before LGB ceased production). I feel that it was this market that Piko intended the Taurus and the 218 diesel. It is encouraging that Piko have announced production of two further standard gauge German freight wagons and the railcar project. Their investment in China bodes well for the future.

Looking at Piko’s HO program gives a good indication that Dr. Wilfer plans ahead and will most likely cover all of the bases. I’ve purchased a BR218 and some Piko track and both products are really top notch. I don’t think he’s looking for any help- especially from the competition!

Crimeny.
Something else for HJ to investigate! :slight_smile: :slight_smile:
j

Oh please…
spare us!

Let’s hope their Chinese QC is better than LGB’s Chinese QC. Hosted the club this weekend and a member brought over her pretty new LGB forney and brand new coach and drover’s caboose. Got them set up, cranked up the power and the forney crawled along jerkily. Turned the power up more and dead stop. Tried again, same thing but noticed a high pitch whine from the caboose. Removed the caboose and all was fine. Got out the multimeter and found one of the trucks was crossed wired. The wires were too thin to cause an actual short. Switched the power leads in one truck and all was fine.

-Brian

I would have to agree with JJ here; I highly doubt that Piko’s success will rely on another manufacturer. I think the company will do fine in G gauge for 2 reasons: 1) the company’s line of quite complete HO models of varying price and detail levels and 2) his ability to produce on his own timeline with I am assuming 2 facturies, one in Germany and one in China.

Tim makes a good point though that people will most likely initially run other manufactuers (LGB, Marklin, etc.) rolling stock behind their new Piko locos, but it seems like new stuff is going to be avaliable to us quick and often.

But that is just my take on it. I guess it is up to us the consumers to buy the companies product and see what the company can do for us.

-Bruce

Brian,

I have been running 2 of the Chineese made forneys (DRG, Wild West) at the Flower and Garden Festival at EPCOT and they have been running fine. They have been running at least 6.5 hours a day on and off throughout the festival.

-David

I for one look forward to what may come from Piko.
I like what they have done so far and it seems that many others do as well.

Brian,
It sounds like Piko has opened a “Piko” factory. This would mean that Dr. Wilfer’s people will be managing it and overseeing QC . They will not be subcontracting all of the work like the other maunfacturers. This would also mean no production delays. From what I’ve read the G gauge product is still designed and manufactured in Sonneberg .

John Bouck said:
Crimeny. Something else for HJ to investigate! j
John Joseph Sauer said:
Oh please...... spare us!
Hehehehe :lol:

Don’t sweat it, lots of info on hand about PIKO. All one needs do is follow the industry press on a regular basis and be fluent in German so one doesn’t have to wait for some translation. Marvin/JJ/Lone Railroader etc. etc. knows all that, he just doesn’t have the tools. TOO BAD, eh! :wink: :slight_smile: :wink:

Since I don’t have the tools how about you translate those Märklin articles from Handlesblatt for everyone HJ?
Lots of juicy stuff there. Looks like Piko’s doing more G production than they are at this point.

Bruce Hutter said:
I would have to agree with JJ here; I highly doubt that Piko's success will rely on another manufacturer. I think the company will do fine in G gauge for 2 reasons: 1) the company's line of quite complete HO models of varying price and detail levels and 2) his ability to produce on his own timeline with I am assuming 2 facturies, one in Germany and one in China.

Tim makes a good point though that people will most likely initially run other manufactuers (LGB, Marklin, etc.) rolling stock behind their new Piko locos, but it seems like new stuff is going to be avaliable to us quick and often.

But that is just my take on it. I guess it is up to us the consumers to buy the companies product and see what the company can do for us.

-Bruce


Much will depend on selection, in an interview with the GARTENBAHNprofi (GBp 6/2006 page 58)Dr. Wilfer mentioned that the emphasis will be on engines, inexpensive freight cars and coaches are a tricky calculation. Yes, that was then and this is now, however profitability calculations don’t change overnight. :wink: :smiley:

Let’s just see what is coming down the pike and what market it is aimed at. Just in case anyone has any doubts, what has been produced thus far is clearly aimed at the entry and toy segment, a niche that PIKO aims at with a lot of their stuff in the smaller scales, too. Their hotch-potch approx. 1:27 “scale” (G1.5) should “work” with the 1:29 American stuff from other sources, remember we’re talking about “occupies more or less the same cube dimensions”.

BTW as soon as the VT railcar appears, I’ll get one; perfect kitbash basis for a certain RhB item (just the chassis, just the chassis!) :wink: :slight_smile:

Maybe your right. Piko should concentrate on high end , high priced locomotives and rolling stock that will sell in low quantities. That would make more sense (not)!

John Joseph Sauer said:
Since I don't have the tools how about you translate those Märklin articles from Handlesblatt for everyone HJ? Lots of juicy stuff there. Looks like Piko's doing more G production than they are at this point.
Marvin,

I know you have a problem with foreign languages, however … does that apply to plain English, too?

HJ said:
I will Bruce, just as soon as I get done with my garden railway projects that are URGENT (strictly in my mind, of course )
in http://www.largescalecentral.com/LSCForums/viewtopic.php?id=8039&p=4

I’m so busy working on my model railway in the garden it is unreal and it doesn’t look like it will get any slacker for the summer, this is the year when things will get done. Translations will happen when and if I feel like it.

PS Oh yeah, I translated a complete website last week, one of those dual language “thingies” I like to do. Of course that was for a customer, not a hobby project. :slight_smile:

Something tells me you’ll never find time to translate the Märklin articles. :wink:
Just want to remind you of thier existence!

John Joseph Sauer said:
Something tells me you'll never find time to translate the Märklin articles. ;) Just want to remind you of thier existence!
Marvin,

No need to remind me, my memory works extremely well. :wink: In fact so well that it really annoys people like you who would just as soon have me forget a few things. Hasn’t happened yet, has it? :wink: :slight_smile: :smiley:

Brian,
the Chinese drover’s caboose has long had a polarity problem from the facory, with the wires crossed up between the front and rear trucks.

It’s really not your memory that annoys me …

Gosh, there are a lot of errors these “Daze”. People that don’t know the difference between "There, their, and they’re…but it does give me a chance to stir the pot several more times a week…!!!