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Photos to make TAC cringe - Weathering a Shay

If you already read this in the General section as a follow-on post to my dull finish thread - I apologize for the duplicate post. After installing s Summerlands Chuffer at Christmas, I had my Shay sitting on my desk and decided that it just looked too clean for a working engine. Step one was to take off the trucks, then wash all the oil off the engine. I did not wash the trucks, but did wipe off excess oil. I did the trucks first, using various combinations of Floquil weathering colors. I liked the result, so I moved on to the metal parts of the engine and drive-line avoiding getting paint on any of gears and/or motion points. Next came the “wood” deck and beams. I started with two coats of an acrylic antique white on all “wood” parts. This was followed by various washes, charcoal dust, an India Ink wash, and some watered down acrylic stain. Once I was happy with the wood, I used more Floquil colors to highlight bolts and hardware. I painted the brass bands black and the ugly gold lubricator and steam pipes were also darkened with Floquil. Finally, all non-moving parts were coated with Krylon Clear Flat Acrylic. [url=lsc.cvsry.com/Post/ShayWeather-1200-01.JPG]

[/url][color=blue]FF: Click to Enlarge - IE: Right Click Photo and select Open Link in New Window to Enlarge[/color] The trucks were not clear coated - too many moving parts to worry about to use a spray. Same goes for the moving parts on the cylinders and drive line - they were masked off before spraying. [url=lsc.cvsry.com/Post/ShayWeather-1200-02.JPG]

[/url][color=blue]FF: Click to Enlarge - IE: Right Click Photo and select Open Link in New Window to Enlarge[/color] The smoke box door was a particular challenge. My first attempt at mounting the #2 plate used a white metal number plate casting. Up in Canada, while running on Doug Matheson’s track, heat from the fire melted the casting. As it melted, some of the white metal deposited itself on the door. The resulting look was perfect, but didn’t cover the entire door. I tried heating the door along with some white metal, but even with flux, it would not coat the door. I tried solder and could get lumps, but not an even coat, so I gave up on that method. What I had left looked like crap, but I found that it took graphite from a pencil very nicely - so I spent an hour watching TV and rubbing the pencil lead over every part of the surface I could reach. The left-over dust was used on a paper towel to coat the balance of the smoke box - over top of the clear. [url=lsc.cvsry.com/Post/ShayWeather-1200-03.JPG]

[/url][color=blue]FF: Click to Enlarge - IE: Right Click Photo and select Open Link in New Window to Enlarge[/color] The hose on the front will be a hard suction line. It’s made from the covering of nylon rope soaked with Krylon Clear to stiffen it. I’ll fabricate some “fittings” and it will be done. [url=lsc.cvsry.com/Post/ShayWeather-1200-04.JPG]

[/url][color=blue]FF: Click to Enlarge - IE: Right Click Photo and select Open Link in New Window to Enlarge[/color] The roof is wide masking tape, overlapped to make seams, then painted with acrylics and weathered with an India ink wash. I still need to add the crew, and a few more tools. The photos don’t do the colors justice - I’m planning on bringing this to York to display in the Alcove on Friday, and later at the Drag-N-Brag.

I thought a before and after comparison would be interesting… [url=lsc.cvsry.com/Post/ShayWeather-1200-00.JPG]

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(http://lsc.cvsry.com/Post/ShayWeather-800-01.JPG)

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Jon,
Looks great. Glad to see it worked out after the problem you had with the clear coat.
Ralph

Looks good over here as well. :wink:

NICE!
Will you be running this on the CVRR?

I will have it with me, but didn’t plan to run it. It makes kind of a mess on the track, not great for track power guys. I was bringing and RDC or two for you to run.

Jon Radder said:
I will have it with me, but didn't plan to run it. It makes kind of a mess on the track, not great for track power guys.
I have a 9yr old boy and a Schipperkee what more damage can be done?

Jon - why should I cringe?? I have never criticised anybody for weathering a loco, why should I, since I actually charge folks to do it to their railroad equipment.

To my mind you have done a great job of weathering, particularly the use of wide tape for the canvas cab-roof. It has all come out very well, especially the ‘wood’.

Over here, where we pay double what you guys do for the same model, there can be a teeny bit of reluctance to dirty stuff up, as the chance of having to sell it on to raise money for stuff like, y’know, food, gas clothes, takes precedence over toy trains.

Best

tac
www.ovgrs.org

Thanks Terry, coming from you, that means a lot :slight_smile:

Dave - Steam oil makes a gooey mess on the track that tends to screw up the power pick-ups on track power locos. That, and it will never have been fired since coating to boiler with the clear coat. That’s going to be a bit dicey and I half expect a mess. Better that I have the temper tantrum that will result if it does, at home !

Jon Radder said:
Dave - Steam oil makes a gooey mess on the track that tends to screw up the power pick-ups on track power locos. That, and it will never have been fired since coating to boiler with the clear coat. That's going to be a bit dicey and I half expect a mess. Better that I have the temper tantrum that will result if it does, at home !
Understood :)

Would like too witness the “Temper Tantrum” though!

Thought I’d resurrect this old thread with an update.

Last spring, after returning from ECLSTS, the Shay was stored in it’s travel box and not looked at again until yesterday - nearly a year later and over a year since it was last fired. This was partly due to my fear of what was going to happen when all the paint got hot, and partly due to being busy all last summer and fall.

With thoughts of taking it to the Pennsylvania Garden Railway Society’s 14th Annual Winter Meet at Scranton this month, I decided I better fire it up. Temps yesterday were moderate and the sun was shining. The burner fired on the first attempt and came up to pressure normally. I did notice that the acrylics on the frame got a bit sticky as the engine heated.

I ran it for about half an hour back and forth on the short section of track I was able to get cleared. When I finally ran out of steam, I let it cool and assessed the paint job…

The colors (frame, running boards and pilots) fared very well except for the steam line and a small spot where a bit of paper towel got stuck. The paint hardened again as soon as the engine cooled and, except for the steam line and the top half of the lubricator, the colors looked unchanged. The clear coat on the boiler did not become the gooey mess I expected, but the boiler regained its sheen. I guess dull and hot just aren’t going to happen together :smiley:

All-in-all no major disasters and most of my weathering work remained intact.

Jon - can we lool in front to seeing it at the Invasion this year?

tac

This is my Bi-Annual year, but it’s not looking good. A Canada trip doesn’t look feasible this year. A job change late last summer lost all of my accrued vacation, and the new job only gives me a week, most of which is spoken for.

Jon Radder said:
This is my Bi-Annual year, but it's not looking good. A Canada trip doesn't look feasible this year. A job change late last summer lost all of my accrued vacation, and the new job only gives me a week, most of which is spoken for.
BUMMER

How about “sick days”?..:wink:

Canadian flu, maybe?

Maybe I can convince Marilyn that we need to do another Great Circle route :smiley:

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/jrad/_forumfiles/NorthernCircleRoute.jpg)

Jon - if you pm me with your email address I’ll send you some pix of two locos I’ve weathered.

Just to prove it.

Best

tac

Chris Sortina did a nice job on his Accucraft Shay…

http://mssls.info/TomM/webpics/15Chris%20Sortina's%20Shay%20(resized).jpg